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    So, I had to call the Sheriff to report trespassing. I never mentioned to the 911 dispatcher that I was armed. Never mentioned to the responding deputy that I was armed nor anything about my CPL. Had a professional encounter with the deputy who checked things out for me, I wished him a safe and good day and all turned out well.

    I did put my shirt over the gun to cover it up when I saw him turn into my driveway. Funny how concealed means concealed, when I choose to conceal it. As far as I know the deputy went home safe to his family at the end of his shift.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flanmedic51 View Post
    Again, you turn it into a rights thing when it only gives the LEO more ability to enforce laws and provide public safety.
    I am not anti-cop, I am pro-Constitution.





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    In illinois no CC so when I had my Ruger Mark III strapped to my side in case I saw that skunk I'd bern after, & a county officer knocked on the door @ the old Stable looking 4 the guy who used to rent the place from us. I just opened the door & stood talking 2 him armed. He never made a comment about it. He was armed 2.

    Told him good luck finding him, & took a card in case I got his address later on. After he went on his way my husband started giving me heck 4 not covering up my gun. Well that would have been illegal its not illegal to B armed on your own property in Illinois. But conceal is.
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    When you call the police to your property in an emergency it's best to alert them during the call that you, the home owner, are armed and provide a description of yourself if possible (time warranting). This way if they arrive on scene and see you holding a perp at gun point they know that you are a GG. This reduces the chances of the GG getting shot by responding officers in error. This sort of thing is covered in civilian firearms training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_S View Post
    I think the chances of anyone ever getting attacked and needing a gun are pretty slim so why bother carrying one at all?
    "It's easier to avoid conflict than it is to survive it" - SGB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_S View Post
    When you call the police to your property in an emergency it's best to alert them during the call that you, the home owner, are armed and provide a description of yourself if possible (time warranting). This way if they arrive on scene and see you holding a perp at gun point they know that you are a GG. This reduces the chances of the GG getting shot by responding officers in error. This sort of thing is covered in civilian firearms training.
    This wasn't an emergency. It was a call for an officer to make a routine report about a suspicion person that was on my property at one time and who had since left my property. Why in hell would I escalate a routine call by bringing a firearm into a situation in which it was completely 100% irrelevent? Although, I supposed if I told them I was holding a gun (which I wasn't), maybe it would have been less than 20 minutes for the deputy to arrive. Concealed means concealed, especially in the presence of strangers. Just because that stranger is wearing a badge and a uniform, they are still a stranger. Unless required otherwise by statute, obviously. I would think that civilian concealed carry instruction would teach what concealed means.

    Thank you for your input, however non-applicable it is to the situation being discussed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flanmedic51 View Post
    Again, you turn it into a rights thing when it only gives the LEO more ability to enforce laws and provide public safety.
    I am not anti-cop, I am pro-Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    This wasn't an emergency. It was a call for an officer to make a routine report about a suspicion person that was on my property at one time and who had since left my property. Why in hell would I escalate a routine call by bringing a firearm into a situation in which it was completely 100% irrelevent? Although, I supposed if I told them I was holding a gun (which I wasn't), maybe it would have been less than 20 minutes for the deputy to arrive. Concealed means concealed, especially in the presence of strangers. Just because that stranger is wearing a badge and a uniform, they are still a stranger. Unless required otherwise by statute, obviously. I would think that civilian concealed carry instruction would teach what concealed means.

    Thank you for your input, however non-applicable it is to the situation being discussed.

    Are you in the habit of calling 911 for non-emergency situations? You call 911 and go in the house to retrieve a gun and now say it wasn't an emergency? Did you call 911 before or after they left your property? Did you or did you not confront someone while armed? If you drew just as the cops rolled up wouldn't you say it would be a good idea for them to know there was an armed homeowner involved in advance? You don't like being told you're wrong- do you? You effed up in several different ways on this one like it or not. Take some training.

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    In North Carolina it is a requirement of having a CCW to notify any officer in any situation IF POSSIBLE that you are carrying - concealed or not. If they do a check they (LEO) will already know you have a CCW because it will come up with your name or Drivers License number. This is part of the CCW training and is on the final test. For example if you are stopped for a traffic violation you must inform the officer when approached that you are carrying. The officer will normally take your gun, unload it, and place it in his vehicle. After the incident is complete the officer will return your gun to you with the clip/ammo removed. If you are on your property and call for an officer the LEO will ask you to put the weapon down or holster it while he checks out the situation. We do not have any issues with this requirement as it is for their own protection as well as ours. If you do not report that you are carrying you can have your CCW revoked PERMANENTLY. Concealed Carry is a PRIVILEDGE - not a right.

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    I live in Minnesota and we do not have a concealed permit, it is a permit to carry a handgun, and I do carry every where, at home as well as away from home, because you never know when the ***** will hit the fan and yes I do carry concealed. But I will always tell a cop or a 911 operator that I'm armed. You need to have a little respect for the cop's and the crap they deal with daily, but that is the way I feel, your millage may vary. I just put myself in their position and ask myself that question, and my answer is yes I would want to know if the person I'm dealing with is armed or not just for piece of mind.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golfbuddy45 View Post
    We do not have any issues with this requirement as it is for their own protection as well as ours. If you do not report that you are carrying you can have your CCW revoked PERMANENTLY. Concealed Carry is a PRIVILEDGE - not a right.
    #1, may I ask what qualifies you to speak for every resident of North Carolina? YOU have no problems with the requirement. That does not mean that there are not North Carolina residents who DO have a problem with the requirement.

    #2, My incident occurred in Washington, North Carolina law has nothing to do with it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flanmedic51 View Post
    Again, you turn it into a rights thing when it only gives the LEO more ability to enforce laws and provide public safety.
    I am not anti-cop, I am pro-Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golfbuddy45 View Post
    In North Carolina it is a requirement of having a CCW to notify any officer in any situation IF POSSIBLE that you are carrying - concealed or not. If they do a check they (LEO) will already know you have a CCW because it will come up with your name or Drivers License number. This is part of the CCW training and is on the final test. For example if you are stopped for a traffic violation you must inform the officer when approached that you are carrying. The officer will normally take your gun, unload it, and place it in his vehicle. After the incident is complete the officer will return your gun to you with the clip/ammo removed. If you are on your property and call for an officer the LEO will ask you to put the weapon down or holster it while he checks out the situation. We do not have any issues with this requirement as it is for their own protection as well as ours. If you do not report that you are carrying you can have your CCW revoked PERMANENTLY. Concealed Carry is a PRIVILEDGE - not a right.
    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    #1, may I ask what qualifies you to speak for every resident of North Carolina? YOU have no problems with the requirement. That does not mean that there are not North Carolina residents who DO have a problem with the requirement.

    #2, My incident occurred in Washington, North Carolina law has nothing to do with it.

    Golf: If you really want a clear picture here you should go to the other thread to see where he's back peddling and trying to make an attempt at damage control.

    I goofed... dealing with a trespasser.

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