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    You've seen the TRU TV show "COPS", right?
    It's a good show giving the rest of us a glimpse into crime and police work on the streets of major cities. A disturbing thing exists in nearly all the episodes, however - cops questioning detained drivers as to where they've been and where they are going. I think we know why the cop wants to turn the stop into a chat session. What would happen if the detained person refused to answer questions but simply provided drivers license, registration, proof of insurance and inquired to how long the detainment should last provided that no crime exists and no probable cause to search person or vehicle exists [other than manufactured probable cause]? Is the detained person obligated by law to provide any information to an LEO other than truthful identity and driving papers?

    Now please, no ramblings about how much you respect LEOs and their job risks and that out of respect you will tell the cop anything he wants to know because you have nothing to hide, etc., that should weed out a bunch. What's the law? How much discretion does an LEO legally have on a traffic stop considering the fact that a (assumed) citizen is being detained? Based upon the scenario that impaired driving, i.e., erratic driving is not observed, why should a detained driver give a cop more info than the pertinent business at hand?

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    "I respectfully decline to answer any questions that don't pertain directly to this traffic stop."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanish Trail View Post
    You've seen the TRU TV show "COPS", right?
    It's a good show giving the rest of us a glimpse into crime and police work on the streets of major cities. A disturbing thing exists in nearly all the episodes, however - cops questioning detained drivers as to where they've been and where they are going. I think we know why the cop wants to turn the stop into a chat session.
    COPS is a production of the Fox network, not TRU TV.

    Oh my God I am so disturbed! How dare they ask where I am driving! Shame on me for replying "home" when asked during my last traffic stop!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Spanish Trail View Post
    What would happen if the detained person refused to answer questions but simply provided drivers license, registration, proof of insurance and inquired to how long the detainment should last provided that no crime exists and no probable cause to search person or vehicle exists [other than manufactured probable cause]? Is the detained person obligated by law to provide any information to an LEO other than truthful identity and driving papers?
    What would happen? Go to a store and refuse to say anything to the cashier who tries to talk to you. You will get weird looks and confuse the person.
    Is the person obligated to say anything? You tell me. If you have watched enough COPS episodes you should have your Miranda rights memorized. "You have the right to remain silent".

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    Now please, no ramblings about how much you respect LEOs and their job risks and that out of respect you will tell the cop anything he wants to know because you have nothing to hide, etc., that should weed out a bunch.
    I respect cops. They have risky jobs. I will tell a cop anything he wants to know because I have nothing to hide, unless I dont feel like telling him something.

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    First, keep in mind that COPS is like an outdoor fishing show....you don't see the hundreds of hours of footage where the angler didn't get a bite. No one tunes in to COPS to see routine traffic stops. We watch it to see falling down drunks, shirtless wife beaters, idiots who always take to the weeds, out-of-shape cops trying to run with holstered Glock, magazines, two pairs of handcuffs, knife, handi-talkie, Tazer, and pepper spray all hanging off of their Sam Browne belt, and the all-important people who can't speak English.

    The cop is trying to chit-chat with the person to see if they are impaired. You can't always tell, so they try to get them talking to see how slurred their words are, etc. They do it in the little 1200-person burg I live in, I'm sure that they do it everywhere.

    I'm sure that if a LEO asked me that stuff, I'd probably play his game to let him know I'm not impaired, and to get him out of my face. Maybe that makes me a wuss or whatever, but I'm just not into confrontation.
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    Treo's first law of police interactions:
    If you talk long enough you WILL say some thing they can use against you.

    Treoís second law of police interactions:
    As soon as you do they will.

    You canít be arrested for invoking Miranda; you canít be arrested for refusing consent to a search.
    If they ask about where youíre coming from just ignore the question donít say a word if they ask again answer ďFrom conducting my lawful private business, Am I free to goĒ and donít say another word.
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    You have the right to remain silent and that being said , if you want to get into a pissing contest with a LEO remember the deck is stacked in his favor and you will most definitely be peeing against the wind and the droplets will be on your shoes .
    Washington didn't use his right of free speech to defeat the British , he shot them.

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    I like watching COPS and The First 48. Watching those idiots talk themselves into jail and or prison just cracks me up.


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    A person cant be arrested for saying "I am going to remain silent or I do NOT consent to a search". This IS the approach I use. It is NOT a matter of having a chip on my shoulder. Im not being disrespectfull. The cop IS A STRANGER and I value my privacy so it is none of the cops business where I have been or where I am going. Remember if you talk with a cop EVERYTHING YOU SAY AT ANYTIME CAN BE USED AGAINST YOU. The more you talk to a cop the better the chance that you will admit to something inadvertantly. For instance you have a knife that is illegal but you dont know it is illegal and if you tell a cop its OK to search, the knife is found, you now have a room at the Sherrifs bed and breakfast.

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    During a traffic stop the cop asked me do you know why i stopped you. My reply was no then he replied by telling me why he stopped me. my response was nothing, so he wrote the summons.In court i presented my case when the cop did the judge asked the officer what did the driver have to say to you he told the judge he said nothing. I won that ticket!! never say anything, say it all to the judge no need to say it to the cop only thing he will do is tell the judge.

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    Of course since I have only been stopped maybe five times in my 39 years of driving it could be an unfair question lol.
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