Pulled over with handgun in glove box

[tattedupboy]

Originally Posted by Debray

Good morning Lee

I got stopped by the local Sheriff Deputy a couple weeks ago. I pulled over wound down the window and placed my hands on the steering wheel. I did not have the carry with me.
When he approached he asked if I knew why he stopped me, I asked if I had been speeding he said "No, my licence plate light was out."
I than gave him my drivers licence, registration, and insurance card, he went back to his vehicle.
When he returned he asked if I was carrying, I said No.
He asked why I didn't announce I had a carry permit.
I told him that was not a requirement in Ohio to announce unless I have a concealed carry.
He disagreed and said I should have to be courteous to the officer.
He gave me a warning ticket, and I told him I would announce the next time just to be courteous, but I also felt he should review the Ohio concealed carry law requirements.
Debray

First of all, welcome to USA Carry, Debray!

Secondly, Ohio law is a bit unclear with regard to informing LEO if you have a permit but aren't carrying. Obviously, you can't go wrong if you inform him, carrying or not, but at the same time, I would like to think that you shouldn't get in trouble if you're not carrying and don't inform.

[gun runner]

When they check the ser.# it is being checked to see if it is stolen.

[wolfhunter]

I live in Florida. Florida does not register guns. Ergo, NONE of my legally owned firearms are registered. If I am pulled over and the LEO runs the serial # on my gun, I will have no problem. The guns were never used in a crime and were not stolen, so I'll get the warning/ticket I was pulled over for and be on my way. Thank you, Officer.

[PascalFleischman]

Originally Posted by tattedupboy

That's easy. Don't travel with a gun that's not registered to you or that you're not the legal owner of.

What if you're carrying a loaner?

What if you bought it in a FTF transaction?

[PascalFleischman]

Originally Posted by Lee Enfield

I handed her my license, informed her that I had a handgun in the glove box, and asked if she would prefer to retrieve it.

She said yes, rather quickly, and walked around to the passenger's side door. She opened the door, opened the glovebox, and retrieved my PT-140, .....

My biggest problem, which surprises me that nobody else caught it, is WHY DID YOU OFFER IT TO HER!?!?!?!?

I didn't catch what state this was in, but assuming you are required to inform, you ONLY have to inform that you're carrying & its location. There's no sense in offering iit to her to secure it. If she wants it, she'll ask. Otherwise, you're putting words in her head. It just opens up the door for them to possibly mishandle your gun.

[Aggressive1]

I got pulled over by a South Carolina State Trooper today for an expired tag. Yeah I hate standing at the DMV.... anyways the officer approached form the passenger side (I had both windows all the way down because the are dark and out of respect). When the officer approached and asked for my license and registration I explained that I had a firearm in the glove box and like the other guy I offered to let the officer retrive it before I reached for my registration (expired...DOH) and my insurance card. The officer thanked me for notifying him and asked if I had my CWP. I explained that I did not, he asked me what kind of firearm it was, then asked if it was loaded. He said he was going to go ahead and retrieve it. When he removed it I explained that if he pulled the clip it would not fire. He asked if there was one in the chamber and I told him yet and he verified that he knew how to eject the round. He emptied it and left the clip on my seat and locked the slide back. He then took it to his car with my paperwork and told me it matched up (I assume with my name) and gave me a nice ticket that I can get dropped if I go to the courthouse with the current registraction
Not his fault...mine. He laid the pistol on the seat and told me either after he leaves or at my next stop I could reload it. The only thing I didn't like about this is if I load it in the parking lot of the CVS and somebody sees it I'll have a group of County cops all over me down the road. If I wait and drive down the road and another officer pulls me over for the tag and the firearm is open and on the seat then I will probably be in bad shape. I would rather the officer have put the empty gun back in the glove box and leave the clip on the seat so at my next stop (home) I could reload it.

Anyways I handled it pretty much the way I heard it was supposed to be and even though Pascal thinks it was wrong to offer it up I felt better that he felt safe. I have a high respect for law inforcement and I would rather him feel safe them me understand my rights to not offer it.

[Lee Enfield]

Originally Posted by PascalFleischman

My biggest problem, which surprises me that nobody else caught it, is WHY DID YOU OFFER IT TO HER!?!?!?!?

I didn't catch what state this was in, but assuming you are required to inform, you ONLY have to inform that you're carrying & its location. There's no sense in offering iit to her to secure it. If she wants it, she'll ask. Otherwise, you're putting words in her head. It just opens up the door for them to possibly mishandle your gun.

You're right, I should have definately reached in the glove box without informing the officer, and retreived my information from underneath my loaded handgun without her expecting it. I'm sure that wouldn't have bothered Ms./Mrs. Officer at all. I should have also left the dome light off and had that whiskey bottle in the cupholder instead of the trunk.

EDIT:
Ok, I see what you mean by just telling her it's there and not offering for her to secure it. When I asked if she would like to retreive "it," I meant the insurance information, not my gun.

[PascalFleischman]

Originally Posted by Lee Enfield

You're right, I should have definately reached in the glove box without informing the officer, and retreived my information from underneath my loaded handgun without her expecting it. I'm sure that wouldn't have bothered Ms./Mrs. Officer at all. I should have also left the dome light off and had that whiskey bottle in the cupholder instead of the trunk.

EDIT:
Ok, I see what you mean by just telling her it's there and not offering for her to secure it. When I asked if she would like to retreive "it," I meant the insurance information, not my gun.

Aha....I misread the "it" part. My apologies.

[tattedupboy]

Originally Posted by Lee Enfield

You're right, I should have definately reached in the glove box without informing the officer, and retreived my information from underneath my loaded handgun without her expecting it. I'm sure that wouldn't have bothered Ms./Mrs. Officer at all. I should have also left the dome light off and had that whiskey bottle in the cupholder instead of the trunk.

EDIT:
Ok, I see what you mean by just telling her it's there and not offering for her to secure it. When I asked if she would like to retreive "it," I meant the insurance information, not my gun.

You still haven't revealed what state you're in. At least if we know that, we would know if you're required to notify.

[TheMan]

Living in GA years ago I was driving, hit from behind, no injuries. Had my gun (permit holder) in glove box and informed the officer when prompted for my reg. and ins. of the gun's presence and he had no interest in it or my CCW.
As I'm sure can be garnered from reading the replies here it all depends on the officer.