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#31
03-14-2009, 02:22 AM
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 First of all, I'll admit my own biases from having done the job. I don't really see that from you and your obvious beef with law enforcement from whatever you've experienced. Second, I've been away from that life for nearly seven years and I have seen things from the other side. I do think about things differently than I did when I was on the job, and it did teach me what not to tolerate in any dealings I might have with the police as a private citizen. It also gave me insight as to handle those situations in the most effective way possible should I ever need to. I'm glad to hear you acknowledge that it isn't all law enforcement, which is something that was not present in any of your other postings, such as: Quote:
My own experience was in the Southeast, where the pay isn't as lucrative and the unions don't have the sway they do up north. It meant we got some shitbirds, yes, but it also meant that the good ones (who outnumbered the bad) often did it because they were dedicated to doing it right. I see your point about alot of this stuff because I see how people get that way, but you come across as equally cynical (on the opposite end of the spectrum) to the guys who use that as an excuse to misuse their authority.  |
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#32
03-15-2009, 08:28 PM
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| Well, there ya go. We have struck a balance. Sure I'm cynical. Always have been for the under dog. Probably has something to do with being a Red Sox fan, I don't know.  At the moment I have bigger fish to fry. For the past 18 or so months I have been on a crusade with many others trying to wake the nation up to the fact that the Federal Reserve System is sucking this nation dry. I have spent my own money and countless hours. And I constantly run up against opposition, complacency, ignorance and arrogance. The economic crisis we're in is a direct result, as are other circumstances which I (we) have been working endlessly to warn people about. But you can lead a horse to water, yada yada. And people ask me now, "How did you know this was going to happen?" And I can only reply, "How did you NOT?" So, the police are but guppies in the food chain of injustice. To quote Aaron Russo, "Abolish the Federal Reserve System, and all the other issues we have in this country will resolve themselves." I'm not a bad guy, I just don't like or tolerate bullies. And I've never needed a cop for anything, though they have never been bashful about expecting me and mine to cooperate with them. Life is difficult enough without some thug with a badge beating you down, and I wish I had the time money and energy to help ever person who has been abused by cops abusing their power. As for the good ones, like I said, I've never needed one.
__________________ "The ways of the world are created by two groups of people; those with entrusted power who desire wealth, and those with entrusted wealth who desire power." ~ Wayne L. Harvey 2007 |
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#33
03-15-2009, 08:49 PM
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__________________ By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7 |
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#34
03-18-2009, 05:23 PM
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| Skyking, I gotta say...I am not a sworn officer, but my job ties in VERY closely with law enforcement. I have learned there are at least two kinds of cops...those who do things like this and those who dont step up and do the right thing. Are there the kind who step up and do the right thing? Of course. Unfortunately from what Ive seen they only get to do it once. I have personally experienced injustice at the hands of the police. My military career and everything thereafter was in serious jeopardy because of false allegations that were perpetuated because the police had known the "victim" since childhood. Do police lie on the stand? Absolutely!! Im sure there are good officers out there. Unfortunately this profession is constantly being dishonored by the bad. People are forming their opinions on law enforcement based on what they see. What are they seeing? Hmmm... Even more disgraceful is that the public isnt necessarily wrong in their distrust of law enforcement. Sorry, no offense meant, but once bitten, ya know? |
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#35
03-19-2009, 12:17 PM
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| theres lots of crooked cops out there,a city near here lots of cops even the police cheif are going to jail or getting fired, police cheif and wife in the drug trade getting time behind bars,cops getting overtime pay and not working for it,drunk driveing,selling drugs,you name it,i dont trust them anymore .  |
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#36
03-22-2009, 12:09 AM
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__________________ "The ways of the world are created by two groups of people; those with entrusted power who desire wealth, and those with entrusted wealth who desire power." ~ Wayne L. Harvey 2007 |
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#37
03-22-2009, 03:27 AM
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| Although I believe that most cops are decent people trying to make a living doing their job, videos like this and the availability of cell phone cameras that capture this, does make me think as to how many times all this goes un-captured. Also before there were so many cameras, I have a hard time believing that there was any less of this going on! As for the original video of the cop taking down the girl, to me it really does not matter if she was a 15 year old or a full grown adult male or female, there is no reason to be attacking them like that. First of all there was another cop there as a backup, second, even if the shoe that was kicked off had hit the cop, it does not justify a beating by the cop while the other one is helping him to hold the person down. As stressful as the job may be, it was that person’s decision to become a LEO. So this being the case, rules need to be followed when doing a job and I don’t think losing your cool and taking it out on someone is part of the job description. He could have used pepper spray or a taser if for some reason he thought there was some other threat that the video is not showing. For the COPS out there that are doing their job as best as they can every day, I Thank You!
__________________ "You must prove you feared for your life. Pee in your pants." -Someone on this site! |
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#38
03-28-2009, 01:51 AM
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| Might as well watch THIS WEEKS cop on paid vacation.
__________________ "The ways of the world are created by two groups of people; those with entrusted power who desire wealth, and those with entrusted wealth who desire power." ~ Wayne L. Harvey 2007 |
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#39
03-28-2009, 04:27 PM
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#40
04-02-2009, 01:49 AM
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 You have every reason not to trust them. They prove time and again they are untrustworthy. Walk up to ANY cop, and ask him/her to recite the constitutional amendments. Or even simpler. Ask them how many there are? See, they resort to name calling (like here) and bully tactics, but don't even know anything about the document they have sworn an oath to protect and preserve. Cops exceed at throwing their weight around because your own taxes will work against you in the legal system to prosecute you. They will win by attrition every time, unless you are a lawyer or have very deep pockets. And they know that. They are a brotherhood. a "Gang." To point out the ignorance with which they speak, I have been running a national organization for two years, yet they call me "small minded," for pointing out facts and statistics. And this is why the people have had their fill of them all. Hey, just for fun, lets watch another traffic stop, shall we?
__________________ "The ways of the world are created by two groups of people; those with entrusted power who desire wealth, and those with entrusted wealth who desire power." ~ Wayne L. Harvey 2007 |
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