Reload Rifle or Transition To Pistol

[Gabe Suarez]

We have been discussing the issues of "speed loading" the rifle here recently. It came up at the class in Houston. It was attended by several military veterans and their consensus was as mine - to retain the magazines lest you simply end up without them.

The issue kept coming up so we set up a simple test. Two shooters would come up and fire three rounds (the rifle was only loaded with three). Upon the third round, they were to either transition to pistol or reload as directed. The objective was to see who would finish their job and fire the next shot (from pistol or rifle).

Each man executed each maneuver, and with 22 students we saw 22 runs at transition versus reload. And in case anyone was wondering, there were plenty of competition shooters and 3-gun shooters there as well. Moreover, we had at least one redi-mag in evidence.

Results - Transition to pistol beat the rifle reload fairly 100% of the time. the only time the reload beat the transition was if the pistol man screwed up on the draw.

So there. How 'bout that.
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[whiskey]

It's great that you had current/former operators to test your theory. This is what I would like to see you try:

Repeat this drill, moving an IDPA target back 7yd. each time.

Find the critical distance where the rifle/carbine is still more effective.

Report back. I look forward to your response.

[Glock Fan]

I've done both in my years through my various encounters. It all depends on the situation. If the target is within pistol distance, I'd transition to pistol. Targets at 20+ meters would likely be a "reload" situation.



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[tattedupboy]

Pardon me if I sound illiterate, but by reloading, do you mean dropping the magazine of the rifle and replacing it with another that already has ammo in it, or putting more ammo into the magazine you just emptied?

[Glock Fan]

Originally Posted by tattedupboy

Pardon me if I sound illiterate, but by reloading, do you mean dropping the magazine of the rifle and replacing it with another that already has ammo in it, or putting more ammo into the magazine you just emptied?

I was talking about securing the empty mag and loading a new loaded magazine. Empties are usually reloaded during "down time". Trying to reload while being shot at isn't a very good place to be. You're in a lotta trouble if you find yourself needing to reload in the middle of a fire fight!


gf

[tattedupboy]

Originally Posted by Glock Fan

I was talking about securing the empty mag and loading a new loaded magazine. Empties are usually reloaded during "down time". Trying to reload while being shot at isn't a very good place to be. You're in a lotta trouble if you find yourself needing to reload in the middle of a fire fight!


gf

Thanks for clearing that up. Seriously, I wasn't able to ascertain that from the information in the original post.

[festus]

If the BG is less than 50M I am going for my sidearm. If the BG is greater than 50M or I have proper cover and a vantage point I am putting a new mag in my rifle. If the BG is at 1000M I am going 37 MOA up and 1/2 MOA LT to account for drop and spin drift.

[boris]

GLAD TO SEE YOU HERE!!! same boris as on WT!!
would you say this is the same idea as " the chicago reload" , as in the fastest reload is another weapon ? it looks like it to me. i borrowed your thread idea in off topic WOD 2009. i hope it was ok.