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    Quote Originally Posted by sargedog View Post
    I think it's all about keeping track of who has guns, and to make money for the state.
    Yeah it's just another tax we have to pay to keep the bureaucrats happy. I believe the second amendment is all we need to carry a firearm but in this society of paranoid pansy ass liberal snot-nose whiners a firearm exposed means we must be up to no good. One day they'll thank us for bailing them out of a precarious situation----maybe.
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    Open carry is easy for a LEO to identify in a confrontation. Therefore the LEO community wanted safeguards for those lawfully concealing a firearm such as training and background checks... I fully understand the Constitutional argument too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MH52 View Post
    And if you go out of state and want to carry (you have no permit and thus no agreement with any other states).
    So you get a non-resident permit from somewhere else
    Flip 'em the bird and die like a VIKING
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    There are lots of reasons but I can't say the any of them are correct or make sense. One is that it goes back to the times of being a gentleman meant not hiding your weapon. Only a low class scoundrel would dare conceal his gun. Whether that was true or not and whether it actually made any difference lots of people, primarily the "upper crust" supposedly tried to use it as an excuse. In the minds of many people, especially the OC crowd, 2A applies to open carry and not to CC. There may have been something to this whole line of thought as many states permit OC without any kind of permit but only a few permit CC.

    Whether or not this "gentleman" thing actually had anything to do with it I do not know but to me there is nothing in 2A that says anything about OC or CC so both should be treated equally. There was a long discussion about Alabama's laws a while back on one board and I finally figured it out. Although AL law says that neither OC or CC is permitted the state constitution says that carry is permitted. A court case finally decided that since both OC and CC are illegal then one would have to be legal and the judge said that OC was the legal form based on that particular case. Since then OC has been the legal carry although both are still illegal by statute. If the case that led to the ruling had been about CC instead then it is possible that CC would be the standard. It really doesn't matter as the judge said that they couldn't ban both of them so OC is legal by court ruling rather than by legislative action.

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    The difference is open carry is just that but your not allowed to have a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle. Having a ccw gives you not only the ability to carry your pistol loaded in your can but it allowed you to hide it on your person. If you carry concealed then the bg does not know your armed.

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