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    Quote Originally Posted by SC Tiger View Post
    Great quote on this bunch from a comments section of one of the articles about them:
    "The range of a Barret M82 Sniper Rifle is 2500 feet. The protesters would be well advised to remember this."
    Some statistics are worth remembering.

  2. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the PEOPLE."

    We, the PEOPLE, have the Constitutional authority to do something. In fact, most governing authority is supposed to be in the hands of the people. "Bob, if you don't pick that pile of garbage off of your lawn, I'm not going to invite you over next weekend for the bar-b-q, and if you still don't, we're all gonna come over there and move it inside your living room where it aint bothering us."

    The 1st Amendment should be absolute. The bastards should have the legal right to yell Fire in a theater. The rest of the patrons have the Constitutional authority to beat the ever loving crap out of him afterwards.

    No laws can make a person honest, only culture. As a government of the people, by the lawyers, for the lawyers, we have forgotten this.

    The world was a better place when people feared the beatdown.
    You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SC Tiger View Post
    What I REALLY want to know is why hasn't the Baptist church gone after this group for calling themselves Baptist? I don't know if they could do it through the legal system but they could skewer this bunch in the media. I would, if for no other reason than to distance myself from them in people's minds.
    Basically there is no "Baptist church" per say. There is no formal higher level organization or coordination of indivdual Baptist churchs. It is not like the Presbyterian Church U.S.A., the Episcopal Church, or the Catholic Church, which have upper levels like Synods, Presbytaries, Dioceases, Deanerys, and leadership like Deans, Bishops, and Presbytary Committees.

    There is an organization called the Southern Baptist Convention, which not all Baptist Churches are a part of. Unless he is claiming to be a part of their organization, they realy can't do much. Esentially it would be like a Catholic Church sueing members of the Presbyterian Church U.S.A. for calling themselves Christians.

    Of course I am not a lawyer, but basically I don't see a LEGAL case being made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G50AE View Post
    Basically there is no "Baptist church" per say. There is no formal higher level organization or coordination of indivdual Baptist churchs. It is not like the Presbyterian Church U.S.A., the Episcopal Church, or the Catholic Church, which have upper levels like Synods, Presbytaries, Dioceases, Deanerys, and leadership like Deans, Bishops, and Presbytary Committees.

    There is an organization called the Southern Baptist Convention, which not all Baptist Churches are a part of. Unless he is claiming to be a part of their organization, they realy can't do much. Esentially it would be like a Catholic Church sueing members of the Presbyterian Church U.S.A. for calling themselves Christians.

    Of course I am not a lawyer, but basically I don't see a LEGAL case being made.
    You are correct. Actually, I'm Southern Baptist so I should have known that. The Southern Baptist Convention could possibly do something but they would probably have to go after every independent Baptist church, which would be both a legal and PR nightmare, not to mention they'd lose. They could possibly all get together and do a "Class Action" type lawsuit but it probably wouldn't get very far - more legal fees down the toilet. A PR war would be the only real way to accomplish anything, and I think this bunch of KDIs (Knuckle-Dragging Idiots) would actually love the publicity. Add to this the fact that the entire Phelps bunch are lawyers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfling68 View Post
    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the PEOPLE."

    We, the PEOPLE, have the Constitutional authority to do something. In fact, most governing authority is supposed to be in the hands of the people. "Bob, if you don't pick that pile of garbage off of your lawn, I'm not going to invite you over next weekend for the bar-b-q, and if you still don't, we're all gonna come over there and move it inside your living room where it aint bothering us."

    The 1st Amendment should be absolute. The bastards should have the legal right to yell Fire in a theater. The rest of the patrons have the Constitutional authority to beat the ever loving crap out of him afterwards.

    No laws can make a person honest, only culture. As a government of the people, by the lawyers, for the lawyers, we have forgotten this.

    The world was a better place when people feared the beatdown.
    Damn straight. ++1 on your whole post.
    Prov. 27:3 - "Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but provocation by a fool is heavier than both"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfling68 View Post
    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the PEOPLE."

    We, the PEOPLE, have the Constitutional authority to do something. In fact, most governing authority is supposed to be in the hands of the people. "Bob, if you don't pick that pile of garbage off of your lawn, I'm not going to invite you over next weekend for the bar-b-q, and if you still don't, we're all gonna come over there and move it inside your living room where it aint bothering us."

    The 1st Amendment should be absolute. The bastards should have the legal right to yell Fire in a theater. The rest of the patrons have the Constitutional authority to beat the ever loving crap out of him afterwards.

    No laws can make a person honest, only culture. As a government of the people, by the lawyers, for the lawyers, we have forgotten this.

    The world was a better place when people feared the beatdown.
    The "beatdown"? what the hell is the "beatdown"?

    We the People have amended our Constitution 27 times. On the 14th such occasion we provided:

    "Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SC Tiger View Post
    Add to this the fact that the entire Phelps bunch are lawyers.
    What was it that Shakespear said about lawyers?

    Also, slightly OT, I wonder if this group gets irked by the song writen by The Village People, "In the Navy". If they do, then that sounds like a great song for everyone to start playing when these clowns show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfling68 View Post
    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the PEOPLE."

    We, the PEOPLE, have the Constitutional authority to do something. In fact, most governing authority is supposed to be in the hands of the people. "Bob, if you don't pick that pile of garbage off of your lawn, I'm not going to invite you over next weekend for the bar-b-q, and if you still don't, we're all gonna come over there and move it inside your living room where it aint bothering us."

    The 1st Amendment should be absolute. The bastards should have the legal right to yell Fire in a theater. The rest of the patrons have the Constitutional authority to beat the ever loving crap out of him afterwards.

    No laws can make a person honest, only culture. As a government of the people, by the lawyers, for the lawyers, we have forgotten this.

    The world was a better place when people feared the beatdown.
    You would just love that mob rule mentality right up until about the point where it was you that was getting the beatdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    You would just love that mob rule mentality right up until about the point where it was you that was getting the beatdown.
    You mean like this kid? Burned teen turns 16, calls accused attackers 'jerks' - CNN.com

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