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    G'Day Guys,

    I'm finally sick to death of my country criminalizing my passion for firearms, hunting and fishing.

    First I lost my semi-auto centrefires, then my pump and semi shotguns, high cap mags, compact frame and above .38 cal. Now the are working on banning handguns and rifles above .310 cal. I can't go fishing in half the places I could 5 years ago and the licensing fees for boats, license and permits is skyrocketing. They are now working on banning 4WD vehicles in the city.

    I own a construction company, hold a commercial pilots license, have a federal and state police clearance and both a firearms and pistol license. But they still don't want me to have handguns....

    I've been thinking about getting into LE for a while, but the police in Australia spend more time harrassing law abiding citizens then catching criminals. My plan at this stage is to join a sheriffs office in the north western corner of the state. I love fishing and hunting, as well as the outdoors so I suspect the Glacier region to be the spot for me.

    Couple of questions,

    Am I able to come on a tourist visa and apply for citizenship if I can find a sponsor?

    Can I buy a rifle, like a 10/22 or a nice Varmint rifle to do some hunting while I'm looking around?

    Is there much work around at the moment, not necessarily LE, but something to do while I look for a cop job?

    Just tell me to piss off if i'm not welcome, but I will greatly appreciate any assistance and info I receive!

    Cheers boys

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    Well, I'll let the boys from Montana address the firearms purchase issues, but I'd like to welcome you to the board and wish you the best of luck. I can't imagine that you wouldn't be welcome anywhere you wanted to settle here!
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    Friendly bunch of blokes I see!

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    I don't see anything that says you wouldn't be able to purchase a firearm like you mentioned. You'd sure be more than welcome here if you do decide to move. I think you'd enjoy it quite immensely!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longrass View Post
    Am I able to come on a tourist visa and apply for citizenship if I can find a sponsor?
    That's more of an DHS issue, but I doubt it. See the State Department for Visa requirements. Since 9/11 the requirements to enter the US have gotten more strict.
    Can I buy a rifle, like a 10/22 or a nice Varmint rifle to do some hunting while I'm looking around?
    No, you need to be able to qualify for a hunting license to be able to pass a NICS check. Typically those are not issued unless you have something other than a tourist visa. You need to have a work, student or immigration or citizenship to get any State's CCW if they issue to resident aliens at all.
    Is there much work around at the moment, not necessarily LE, but something to do while I look for a cop job?
    You need to be a US citizen to hold any job in law enforcement in the US. You need at least a work or student visa to be able to find employment here. We're in a recession. I don't know the demographics of Montana. I do know we're hurting badly here in Nevada since our economy centers on tourism.
    Just tell me to piss off if i'm not welcome, but I will greatly appreciate any assistance and info I receive!
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    Montana is a great place for gun owners. I don't know how far reaching it is, but it was within the past 2 or 3 years that the state exempted itself from many federal firearms regulations. Just my kind of place!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longrass View Post
    G'Day Guys,
    SNIP

    I own a construction company, hold a commercial pilots license, have a federal and state police clearance and both a firearms and pistol license. But they still don't want me to have handguns....

    I've been thinking about getting into LE for a while, but the police in Australia spend more time harassing law abiding citizens then catching criminals. My plan at this stage is to join a sheriffs office in the north western corner of the state. I love fishing and hunting, as well as the outdoors so I suspect the Glacier region to be the spot for me.

    Couple of questions,

    Am I able to come on a tourist visa and apply for citizenship if I can find a sponsor?

    Can I buy a rifle, like a 10/22 or a nice Varmint rifle to do some hunting while I'm looking around?

    Is there much work around at the moment, not necessarily LE, but something to do while I look for a cop job?

    Just tell me to piss off if i'm not welcome, but I will greatly appreciate any assistance and info I receive!

    Cheers boys
    A Tourist Visa is not what you need, you need a work visa. Your Australian CPL and construction skills may qualify you as "skilled" person for a visa.
    A work visa and legal presence in the USA should allow you to buy any firearm.
    To get a concealed carry license requires citizenship in many, but not all states. Open carry is legal in many states, Montana, Idaho and Wyoming all allow As far as I know open carry.
    You will want to get a full US CP and that now requires TSA clearance and approval. But you can get a US CP certificate issued on the basis of your Australian license.
    Montana often has temperatures of -20 C, so plan on buy clothes.

    Other sites to check AOPA Online: Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association
    USCIS Home Page Citizenship info

    USCIS - How Do I Become a Lawful Permanent Resident While In The United States?

    ATF Online - Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Federal gun laws
    Gallatin County, MT - Concealed Weapon Permits
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    Shouldn't be any problem buying a firearm here. Since HB-246 passed that might make it a bit easier to do so. I know where I work is desperately hiring. I work at a Prison in Shelby, MT that is understaffed. It's not bad work and the pay is decent.
    It's a foot in the door for law enforcement work I think. Drop me a PM if you have any questions. I'll sure do my best to answer them for you!!
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    I live up in the Bitterroot Valley in northwest Montana. The job market here is very slow and construction here, like many other places, has really declined. However I do see law enforcement positions being advertised quite frequently. For example, there is a position for a police officer being advertised in Hamilton, Montana right now. I don't know how your non-citizenship status would play into seeking that type of job if that is what you want. I'm originally from Louisiana and moved up here about 4 years ago. There are very few prettier places on earth. I'm looking out my home office window at 11,000 foot snow capped peaks at this very moment. The attitude up here is mostly "live and let live". Everyone minds their own business but yet are friendly to lend a helping hand if possible. Best of luck to you. By the way, check out this web-site to explore current jobs in Montana: https://jobs.mt.gov/jobs/seeker/search/search.seek Best of luck in getting to a more freedom loving area of the world.

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    One thing you have to remember is that you can't just hunt anywhere while you are walking about. Lots of land is private property and you cannot hunt. Some public land allows hunting in certain seasons,

    I do not like hunting on public land since you never know what idiot is out there trying to play Daniel Boone.

    Best of luck getting to come to "The Land of the "FREE"".

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