Signs on NV Hotel

[blume357@]

I'm going to have to spend a week in Reno next month. As I understand it my Florida permit makes me good to carry. But a friend (fellow packer)who is going to be with me wrote to the hotel and asked about fire arms and was told they aren't allowed and would have to be checked into security when entering the hotel.

Here is what the manager of the hotel wrote:

" I had forgotten that we have posted signs at all of our
entrances stating that firearms are not allowed inside the building, due
to that if you bring your weapon, you will need to check it at security.
Sorry for my error in previous emails."

On this is the Grand Sierra Hotel by the way.



Suggestions and comments please.

[NDS]

Should you choose to ignore the signs, carry concealed and don't tell them you're armed. If they should discover you are armed in the public areas of the business, they can ask you to turn them in to security or leave. If you fail to comply you may be charged with trespassing.

I wouldn't have asked, and I'd have ignored the signs. The only reason I disarm (sometimes) before entering a casino is to be sure I'm not asked to leave during dinner or before the end of a movie.:icon_wink:

[varminter22]

Wow, that is somewhat surprising. The Grand Sierra regularly hosts the largest (and best, in my opinion) gun show in northern Nevada.

I do not recall ever seeing any signage indicating no firearms are allowed by guests.

With a valid CCW, I would CCW anyway as mentioned by NDS. Or cancel reservations and stay in another hotel - and let them know why!

[DarrellM5]

The only signs I've seen at Grand Sierra Resorts is during the Big Reno Gun Show. Then they post that no loaded weapons are allowed on the casino floor. I just carry anyhow in casinos.

[blume357@]

Okay, I'm going to ask a few more questions...

Are there specific NV rules for signage at a business.... One of the few good things in my state of S.C. about CC is that the rules for signs here are pretty hard to follow and most places that post a sign do it wrong so I'm not breaking the law when carrying concealed in them.

2nd and this is a stretch.... is there anyone on this list who is in Reno and could actually go and see if there are 'now' signs on all the entrances to the Grand Sierra? There is a good chance the manager writing this email is just throwing up a smoke screen...

All I can say is I'll so the same for anyone else on this list who might be coming to Greenville, SC sometime.

[PascalFleischman]

Originally Posted by blume357@

I'm going to have to spend a week in Reno next month. As I understand it my Florida permit makes me good to carry. But a friend (fellow packer)who is going to be with me wrote to the hotel and asked about fire arms and was told they aren't allowed and would have to be checked into security when entering the hotel.

Here is what the manager of the hotel wrote:

" I had forgotten that we have posted signs at all of our
entrances stating that firearms are not allowed inside the building, due
to that if you bring your weapon, you will need to check it at security.
Sorry for my error in previous emails."

On this is the Grand Sierra Hotel by the way.



Suggestions and comments please.

Since they now have documentation in the form of an email that you were informed of a no-firearms policy, I'd be extra careful with what you do with it once you're there. If, for any reason, you're leaving your gun to go somewhere it can't, lock it in the car. I'd wonder if they would claim 'no liability' if for some reason your gun were stolen out of the in-room safe...

[netentity]

Per NRS 202.3673 signage only has force of law in NV outside of simple trespass if it is a "public building" (i.e. owned by a government entity). For private businesses with the exception of child care facilities, all they can do is trespass you. Child care facilities are now treated as K-12 schools per NRS 202.265 and NRS 202.3673. Some casinos have on site accommodation child care facilities.

Under the strict letter of the law, you are in violation and are committing gross misdemeanor by just having a firearm on the premises which includes the real estate the casino is on. There is going to be a big stink to strike this recently added prohibition as it was slid in under the radar by Assemblyperson Kirkpatrick and she's up for reelection this year with SB354.

I will say this and I also emphasis this to my students and people who ask advice, never ask for permission to carry; the answer will always be no by a business owner or entity that manages the business. Know the law; don't ask, don't tell.

The only time I have an issue in a NV casino carrying is when I go to a venue within a casino that has metal detectors (i.e. a concert at the MGM Grand Garden Arena). I then just check it with the security office back stage. I do attempt to walk through the metal detector. Some of those security screeners aren't too bright. I've gotten past them with my life insurance policy underwritten by Smith & Wesson before.

[blume357@]

Quick response to few things: I didn't ask... a friend of mine did who is also going to be there.... so, his 'name' is on the radar not mine. Also, the last thing I'm worried about is the hotel being liable if the gun is stolen from the room safe.... two reasons... I don't cast blame too often and if I bring it, it won't be in the room safe.

[netentity]

Needs to be educated on what concealed means and the simple fact it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission. I emphasize the know the law; don't ask, don't tell philosophy in my classes.

I personally would switch hotels and have your friend send the e-mail why, not you.

[blume357@]

most of the night... It's really not convenient to switch... especially since my room is paid for. friend is from near Chicago, so you know he probably can't help it.....

"Sorry Bo, I know you might be watching"