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12-16-2007, 07:21 AM
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 Ridiculous Gun Show Infringement I am a frequent visitor to the monthly gun shows here in Las Vegas, Nevada of which I am also a resident. I was appalled to find out Saturday December 15th, 2008 that yet another ridiculous, unconstitutional 2nd Amendment infringement has been placed on law-abiding gun buyers, owners, dealers and the like. Whereas, you can no longer take a handgun purchased at a Las Vegas, Clark County, Nevada Gun show with you, regardless of being a law-abiding citizen whom has paid for and passed the equally superfluous, unconstitutional 2nd Amendment infringement NICS check at the show. You are now required to pick the item up from the business of the dealer whom you bought it from. Further, this imposes obvious additional undue costs, expenses and such even if both the dealer and the purchaser were residents of Las Vegas, Nevada. Moreover, if purchaser was a law-abiding visitor from another state, said purchaser would incur additional, shipping, FFL to FFL transfer & other fees not previously required. Being a law-abiding & voting resident of Las Vegas, Clark County, Nevada I did not vote for this nor was this publicly announced in a way that the voting public could provide feedback or concern for it. Further, it was very recently imposed on us without our knowledge. Clark County, Nevada remains the ONLY county in the State of Nevada to have a mandatory handgun registration scheme; and now Las Vegas is further infringing upon the rights of Nevadans by imposing an additional infringement that does not exist anywhere else in the state. Please support, encourage the repeal of these and other such blatant 2nd amendment infringements of the law-abiding citizens of Las Vegas, Clark County, Nevada USA, before this comes to another State, City or other municipality in the U.S.; by writing the media, representatives in Washington and the NRA: http://nraila.org/ GOA: http://gunowners.org/ and SAF: http://saf.org/ AND... if you are a Nevada resident, register to vote if not already before this Wednesday, December 19th, 2008 so you can participate in the caucus. AND... Vote gun grabbing Senator Harry Reid and Mayor Oscar Goodman OUT when they come up for re-election again. Write the media: http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/media/ Write representatives in Washington: http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/ Write Mayor of Las Vegas Oscar Goodman: http://www.lasvegasnevada.gov/Govern..._b_goodman.htm Write Nevada Governor Jim Gibbons: http://www.capwiz.com/nra/bio/?id=373&lvl=S&chamber=G Write Nevada state legislators, local officials, and more: http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/ It should be noted that buyers and sellers from all over the country come to these renowned monthly gun shows in Las Vegas, Nevada. FYI: Cross Posting in Second Amendment Issues Forum. Mike Huckabee on the issues and policies: http://www.mikehuckabee.com/  Last edited by Bohemian; 12-16-2007 at 09:26 AM.  |
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12-16-2007, 02:27 PM
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| I agree with your sentiments and anger but would like some clarification. Clark County 72 hour wait applies to handgun purchases at gun shows and has for some time and guns must be picked up at a local dealer. If your dealer is out of town you pick it up at a local dealer after your seller does a dealer transfer to them. If, however, you have an execreble blue card or a CHL, you may take it with you after the paperwork is complete and your blue card given to you. I did not attend this weekend's show so I'm wondering: Has this situation changed? Must all purchasers now wait for the next business day to pick up from the dealer's store? Please clarify--and do be sure to vote. I'd love to see the 'honorable' harry reid replaced. 
__________________ When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President; I'm beginning to believe it. --Clarence Darrow Words to live by: Ecclesiastes 10:19 America's best Xtian: http://www.bettybowers.com/ |
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12-16-2007, 07:30 PM
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| local ordinances in Clark County I cannot help but wonder why citizens in Clark County are not more outspoken on these "local ordinance" issues. The offices of the county commissioners and local city councils should be overflowing with mail, email, fax, and telephone messages. Voters should be campaigning and lined up from Hoover Dam to the northern county line - and back again - a few times - to elect officials that will do the right thing and repeal the unconstitutional handgun registration scheme. And if that doesn't work, we'll raise the issue again in the 75th (2009) legislative session. In the 74th legislative session (2007), we tried to get rid of Clark County's (unconstitutional) handgun registration scheme. Unfortunately, that was again "grandfathered." HOWEVER (and this is a BIG however), NO OTHER LOCAL ordinances were grandfathered. Read the NRS! Please see my letter quoted below. I have not yet received any replies; it remains to be seen what will become of it. However, I'm told the NRA General Counsel agrees and hopefully will become involved if necessary. In other words, no one has been able to disagree nor tell me why this interpretation of the law is incorrect. Quote:
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12-18-2007, 01:12 PM
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YES it has changed, please read my previous post carefully. In a nutshell regardless of whether or not you have a blue card and or CCW you can no longer take a handgun with you purchased from ANY GUN SHOW AT CASHMAN field or within the Las Vegas city limits. You must bend over and either go to the dealers place of business if local or pay an additional shipping & transfer fee if dealer and or yourself is not a local resident. If your dealer you purchased your handgun from is local you can pick it up from said dealer the same day if he transports it to his local place of business the same day. Visit Mike Huckabee on the issues and policies; the only presidential canidate in any party with a CCW and the first Governor in the U.S. to have a CCW: http://www.mikehuckabee.com/ |
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12-18-2007, 10:38 PM
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Who implemented this 'requirement'? Is it a LAW/ORDINANCE? Or is it merely a policy implemented by the gun show promoter? If it is a policy implemented by the gun show promoter, I suspect there is little you can do - besides boycott the show. It obviously is NOT a state nor federal law. If it is a county or city ordinance, by what authority was it enacted and HOW could it be harmonious with Nevada law? See my post above, including our club letter to several Clark County officials. You have REALLY aroused my curiosity. Perhaps we need some facts. |
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12-19-2007, 12:20 PM
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| The show promoters had nothing to do with this piece of b.s. City of Las Vegas/Las Vegas City Council/Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Gun Grabbing Goodman all had a hand in it; it became official in the last few weeks. Finding more specific details on it is going to require a visit to city hall and a F.O.I.A. or equivalent request. This has to be one of the most underhanded pieces of local legislation in recent history. It was very sneakily put in under the radar and most dealers and anybody visiting the show did not find out until the first day of the show... Since any gun show worth a darn in Clark County occurs within Las Vegas city limits this is significant. Mike Huckabee on the issues & policies: http://www.mikehuckabee.com/  |
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12-19-2007, 10:50 PM
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| Did you read my letter posted in this thread? Has anyone challenged this recent local ordinance (or whatever it is)? I am still awaiting a reply to the letter. To date, NO ONE has been able to disagree with my letter. I'm told the NRA General Counsel (lawyers) even agree. I'm anxious to see how it shakes out. ------- "... visit to city hall and a F.O.I.A. or equivalent request." Huh? A visit to city hall is a maybe. But an FOIA request? Since when does a citizen need to submit an FOIA request in order to view laws/ordinances?? Last edited by varminter22; 12-19-2007 at 10:53 PM. Reason: add question |
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12-20-2007, 03:18 AM
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| JUST A THOUGHT. Could this be a new interpretation of Las Vegas and/or Clark County Business License rules and regulations. They will stoop to any level to hinder anything involving guns.
__________________ The more I practice, the 'luckier' I get! |
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12-20-2007, 10:17 AM
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I am not aware of anybody challenging this to date; I have not even seen it on the news yet; this is how these gun grabbers work now days; under the radar... I am hoping that my fellow citizens will get busy and do as I have and start writing letters and making phone calls... I generically stated that a "visit to city hall and a F.O.I.A. or equivalent request" was in order because according to the the dealers and promoters of the show(s) the ink is barely dry on this latest infringement. I only meant that some kind of formal request may be required; as some kind of lame interference by Oscar Gun Grabbing Goodman's cronies... |
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12-20-2007, 09:33 PM
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