Greetings from Washington!

[tattedupboy]

Greetings from the Hoosier State and welcome to USA Carry! Enjoy the site!

[frank.macher]

Welcome from SE Michigan, not qualified to provide an answer - Canis Lupus seems to be the best source for this and I highly respect his opinions.

[DeepWaters]

Welcome to Washington.

[Big Bubba]

Hello and welcome from the Missouri Ozarks.

[DeepWaters]

Originally Posted by Canis-Lupus

Folders that lock and are less than 3.25" (blade length) are legal clipped inside pocket carry if not used to act the fool or in any weapons free areas.

Just so you know, Sacred Heart confiscated my 2-7/8" folding lock blade when I had to take my wife to the E.R. there.

PS.: Not that I doubted what Canis-Lupis told you, but since I had a call in to my Local S.O. on another matter I bounced that question off of them. They said they had no issue with it at all unless it was used then you'd better be able to justify your actions. pretty much the same as shooting someone while carrying concealed I'd guess.

[Canis-Lupus]

Catch 22 DeepWater.
In general E.R/'s or Urgent Care clinics treat every form of illness or injury, so it's a 1st stop for suicidal/homicidal ideation psych pts, just like every other faster access to care facility than a 30-day out appointment norm. So (regardless of state) normally E.R.'s are no weapons areas, I know a few folks who went to S-H for flu or fractures, they got their minor weapons taken away if they set off a metal detector or were say wearing a Gerber multi-tool/Leathemans which has a knife as 1 of it's gizmos in plain sight. Too many E.R. staff nation wide get fucked-up by human time bombs who show up there either voluntary or c/o the LEO's who bring them in to get patched-up. In 17 years of being a medic 9 of them were running E.R.'s and I count 7 medics shot to death by self or others, (lost count of ones who got shot & survived) 3 nurses and 3 doctors killed by GSW's, and lost count of regular patient vs. patient brawls that started in bars or homes & ended in many E.R.'s I was pulling duty in when the SHTF. Then we move on to knives or blunt-force weapons like whip-batons or knuckledusters, I seldom went a week without having to fill out a 'serious incident report' where a patient had harmed or (seldom thank God) killed staff or another pt.
Pro-2nd advocates can scream all they want, but IMHO an E.R. should be weapons free and armed security should be on duty 24/7. In Tripler Army Medical Center a huge medical complex that treats most patients from the Pacific rim, and the surrounding closer islands of HI E.R. violence was a shift by shift norm. TAMC treats active-duty, retired, Vets and backs-up Honolulu City & County when they get swamped. I was the NCOIC of their E.R. for 2 years, got so bad we carried a stun-gun at the nurses station, and 1 in each ambulance, and we had to go thru training to use them and used them a LOT... we had to. Pulling 911 duty in Red Hill (a military housing area) or (much worse), gang-wars in Pearl City over a few years and I was shot at more times then in my entire career that did consist of going up against armed nations grunts with AK's. Many times we just could not go in to get a bleeding out 'man down' until HPD or M.P.'s in 'The Crater' showed up and took out the shooters. The stun-guns saved a lot of folks who would have got shot or knifed or just beat the fuck up real bad with meth/PCP/speeded-out patients who don't go down with normal force and break out of 4-point leather restraints then rip the place up. I am sorry about your run in with S-H, they are a good, huge and very busy Level I trauma center and about the best in town with Deaconess a close 2nd with the V.A. trailing 3rd for patient load per month.
Thing is there are so many ways to get a weapon into a hospital that are not guarded or even have passive security or even CC cameras that anyone who wants to CC in one prolly can, and why the fuck is anyone bringing a gun to a hospital anyway? If you ask some Vets I know they pack @ least a knife (knowing the FUBAR consequences if caught) because they don't know when some Vet is going to go Khe-San on a waiting room full of law-abiding unarmed Vets. Which is EXACTLY what happened here 3 years back with a Vet who had an M16 full-auto and had just left the very same waiting room I was in only an hour B 4 he showed up and heard about it on my car radio on the way home after being treated! The V.A. cops contained him and a Spokane negotiator talked him down, he wanted the cops to shoot him after he got denied meds by a doc and God only knows where he got a real M16A2 from! Check the Spokesman review archives for that one, or this link which is only 1/2 correct but close enough:
2007 August 10 Spokane Police Abuses: Past to Present
October 26, 2005
Man Arrested Near Spokane VA Hospital With Guns
SPOKANE, Wash. — A man armed with three firearms was arrested this morning near the Spokane Veterans Administration hospital. ("Near" my ass, he pulled it out inside the f-ing waiting room, fired off a burst then ran outside!)
No one was injured when a pair of doctors and a security officer talked the man into putting down the assault rifle and handgun. Police later found another handgun on the man, who is in his 40s. Think he lost all his V.A. eveything and is still doing hard time in Walla Walla.
He faces a federal charge of bringing a firearm onto federal property. (And discharching it, and owning a full auto weapon, etc.)
Police say a doctor first encountered the man in a breezeway at the back of the hospital, near an emergency room. Another doctor and the security officer arrived and the policeman drew his weapon.
The man had previously been treated at the center and reportedly told police he wanted to commit suicide.
(Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press)
Maybe that's why your knife was confiscated, I hope they just gave it back being a civilian hospital. Pull that in the V.A. hospital (Federal ground) and you just lost a LOT more than your knife taken away for your stay, but I see weapons on patients about 2-3 times a year inside our V.A. or the grounds/clincs that surround it, all Fed ground. From Bucks on belts to poorly hidden .45's/larger pistols outlined against/inside tight T's!

Canis-Lupus

[DeepWaters]

They caught me going through a metal detector and yeah they gave it back when we left. Until that day I had never considered a pocket knife a weapon, because I had so many real weapons I guess. Of course I was brought up a lot differently than those who turned the pocket knife into a weapon I would suspect. About the most dangerous thing I had ever done with a pocket knife to date was to run with the blade once out when I was about 10. Or possibly to play stretch with the neighbor kid. A lot of people in the world have gone nutz I think, and they are screwing it up for the rest of us. Thinking back I guess I'm lucky I didn't wind up in the pen for taking a pocket knife into Madigan. Of course I had been air-lifted there and was strapped to a gurney at the time On another note it is really wierd that You, Wuzfuz, and I all have screwed up left knees. I am considering purchasing that cane now.

[boyzoi]

welcome from Indiana

[Canis-Lupus]

I got MEDEVAC-ed to Tripler AMC with my issued bayonet and an M16 strapped to a litter after I went down with a infection on the Big Island of Hawaii about 10 days into a 30 day rotation there in 1986. They gave it all back to me [of course] upon d/c. The weapon deal is a real threat as if you read the RCW's about WA State CC it cleary states that a person will not carry a weapon into an area where psch patients are treated, that is every ER I have ever been in or run. Yes it is a pain my friend, and the sword-cane is great, but it stays home when I go to the local V.A. as does every single 'toy' I have from a tiny key-chain CS sprayer to my belt loop Gerber, so please if you get that cane treat it just like a CC.
I am glad you got your pen-knife back, and here's my funny story. Last year I had to go to Spokane court-house to renew an expired CC permit, I took every weapon I was carrying and left them at home, but forgot I had a tiny (1" x 3" steel) set of thumb-cuffs hidden inside a small pocket. So I walked thru the metal detector and went off BEEP, and they were taken away from me until I left when they were returned, thumb cuffs a weapon? Well I didn't feel like arguing the point in a place that had more cops buzzing around than a LEO convention!
I hope we are still tracking my friend,

Canis-Lupus

[DeepWaters]

Originally Posted by Canis-Lupus

I got MEDEVAC-ed to Tripler AMC with my issued bayonet and an M16 strapped to a litter after I went down with a infection on the Big Island of Hawaii about 10 days into a 30 day rotation there in 1986. They gave it all back to me [of course] upon d/c. The weapon deal is a real threat as if you read the RCW's about WA State CC it cleary states that a person will not carry a weapon into an area where psch patients are treated, that is every ER I have ever been in or run. Yes it is a pain my friend, and the sword-cane is great, but it stays home when I go to the local V.A. as does every single 'toy' I have from a tiny key-chain CS sprayer to my belt loop Gerber, so please if you get that cane treat it just like a CC.
I am glad you got your pen-knife back, and here's my funny story. Last year I had to go to Spokane court-house to renew an expired CC permit, I took every weapon I was carrying and left them at home, but forgot I had a tiny (1" x 3" steel) set of thumb-cuffs hidden inside a small pocket. So I walked thru the metal detector and went off BEEP, and they were taken away from me until I left when they were returned, thumb cuffs a weapon? Well I didn't feel like arguing the point in a place that had more cops buzzing around than a LEO convention!
I hope we are still tracking my friend,

Canis-Lupus

Definately.