New guy from NYC

[TheTwins]

I just can't imagine living like that. Those kind laws scare me so much worse than than any person or gang could ever scare me. I could not live by them. I would have to go to Texas or better yet Alaska.

[stresco]

Hey Ultra12, Glad you found the site. ;)

Guys, Its not as easy as you might think to just pick up your life/family and MOVE out of a state just because you don't approve with some of the BS laws. Some of us would love to get out of NY, but we have ties here that just wont allow us. So we make do with what we got and play by the rules as much as possible. Ultra12, hire a lawyer to help you with your process. You CAN do it without one but it will take you about a year to untangle all the read tape and cost about a grand anyway.

If you follow all the laws in PA, and NY I don't see how you could get into trouble in NY for carrying in PA. Get your NY license, gun, PA CCP and when you travel from NY to PA pack and lock you gun in accordance to NYC laws. When you get to PA for your hunting trips, carry your weapon as you are legally permitted to do so. If you are questioned, present your PA CCP. As long as you are following every body's rules, I don't see how you can get into trouble, although I may be wrong. Ask your lawyer what his legal opinion is about the matter.

[hunter won]

New York has a diverse set of restrictions set by every county,some are lifetime and some are not.If you live in Delaware county your very lucky because you are in a pro gun county.For example my friend was trying to apply for a Pennsylvania non resident permit at one of the bordering counties with New York.The Sheriff saw his license which was restricted and requested that he have those restrictions lifted before a CCW permit can be issued by his office.He made an appointment with the judge to have the restrictions taken off.The sad thing is that he had just got his permit and never mentioned to the judge the first time around why he requires a permit for other than target and hunting.He was denied, because he didn't show a need to carry where he lives and didn't meet the requirements to be able to have an unrestricted permit.There are some good courses being offered at Gander mountain for getting non resident ccw permits for Utah which allows you to carry in PA and many other states.New York doesn't recognize any out of state pistol permits.It's nice to be able to go to over 30 states carrying concealed.

[BamaBoy]

It's ridiculous that it's easier to carry in Pennsylvania on a Utah or Florida permit than it is to obtain a Pennsylvania non-resident permit. "The sheriff saw his license which was restricted"? Why would the Pennsylvania sheriff see the New York license? Pennsylvania is a "shall issue" state to non-residents. What do restrictions put on a license in New York or Washington DC or Belize have to do with Pennsylvania law?

[Kevins9145]

Originally Posted by Ultra12

That was my understanding as well however since the gun is registered on you NY premises license supposedly its in violation of NY license. PA has no problem with that or any other state but if it ever gets back to NY that you carry a NY registered gun somewhere else they can technically take your privileges away.

Well look at it like this. You cannot purchase a weapon in another state on an out of state lic. You have to purchase it on the permit you have from your state of residence, or if you buy out of state than in most cases you have to have it FFL'd back to NY. Therefore so you do not break any laws in either state you would have to carry your NY registered gun on your out of state permits, unless you can rent or borrow a gun in the state you plan to carry in. Additionally I don't see how if you take your property to a different state and bring it back to NY and follow the laws here they can revoke your permit.

Originally Posted by BamaBoy

It's ridiculous that it's easier to carry in Pennsylvania on a Utah or Florida permit than it is to obtain a Pennsylvania non-resident permit. "The sheriff saw his license which was restricted"? Why would the Pennsylvania sheriff see the New York license? Pennsylvania is a "shall issue" state to non-residents. What do restrictions put on a license in New York or Washington DC or Belize have to do with Pennsylvania law?

To get a Lic. in PA as a non resident you have to provide them with a copy of your resident state permit to prove that you can legally carry a firearm in that state. Even though many NY permits have restrictions on them, technically they are all concealed carry. Some sheriffs and states realize this and some do not. My fathers county of Monroe was one where my NY restrictions would have gotten me a restricted PA permit so I did not apply to the sheriff there.

Centre County is where myself and most of the people from LI and NYC go to get their PA permits, because the sheriff there understands NY permits more than others and you can do everything through the mail.

[mmurtha]

Originally Posted by Ultra12

I have contacted Larry Goodson to help me with an application he has been in the business for over 25 years doing just that, helping law abiding citizens get a handgun license.

After having a log conversation i found out that getting non resident CC permit in states like Florida and Ohio will give you the right to CC in most of the states but will violate my NYC premises license, since it will clearly state that its restricted to only premises, hunting and target shooting. Unless i get CC license in NYC i technically cant use my NYC premises registered hand gun to carry in any other state. i cant use it for hunting or target shooting in fact it can never leave NY state.

I'm afraid you have been misinformed. As suggested, if you have no criminal record or obvious reasons for denial, you might be better off handling the application by yourself. Just take the time to learn as much as you can. I suggest you visit Long Island Firearms.