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    The Castle Doctrine is not dead and from what I understand it become effective next month here is the link: http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2007/B...ML/H476v1.html
    Quote Originally Posted by dubccat51 View Post
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    As I mentioned earlier, the Castle Doctrine and Park Carry Bills died in committee along with the Restaurant Protection Act. The Restaurant Protection act would allow CHP holders to carry in any establishment that has a portion that normally and customarily serves food and was originally intended to get rid of the prohibition for restaurants that serve alcohol but I think would have went a lot further since theatres, schools, some bars, etc. also serve food. Personally, I feel that if a person has a CHP, they should be able to carry everywhere as long as they do not consume alcohol. We should base prohibitions on people instead of places since crime does not stop where CHP holders cannot carry.
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    I just looked on the NC Legislature website and it is still in the House Committee on Judiciary II. The date on the bill sayes it is effective on December 1st but it has never been voted on except one reading in the House. It is my understanding that each bill has to be read and voted on three times by both houses of the Legislature, Ratified, and then be signed by the governor to become a law.

    Here are the bill pages for each of the three self-defense bills:
    Bill Page for Castle Doctrine
    Bill Page for Concealed Carry in Parks
    Bill Page for Restaurant Protection Act

    I was also snooping around and found out that a bill to stop the seizure of lawful firearms in an emergency also died in commitee. I hope we don't have a Katrina like event anytime soon. This bill would not protect firearms that are carried off a person's property since it is already illegal to both openly carry and carry concealed in an area of riots or emergency, but it would prevent officers going from door to door taking firearms like they did in New Orleans. I don't think that North Carolina would seize firearms during an emergency since it didn't happen during Hurricane Floyd, but I didn't think that New Orleans would either.
    Bill Page for No Seizure of Lawful Firearms in an Emergency
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    I took my concealed weapons class in July and was informed by my instructor that NC would be getting a Castle Doctrine simular to FL in Nov or Dec, so I'm looking at this to already have passed and ratified and will go into effect in a few weeks. I will double check with my instructor soon.
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    Yes indeed, we are at the cutting edge of progressive CCW laws--LOL. I got my permit a few weeks ago and after I had it laminated it makes a fairly good window scraper on cold mornings. I have a sweet Kahr T9 I can shoot very well but I will NOT carry until things change in this State AND in most of the country as well. We should be rewarded for our willingness to risk our lives in potential shoot-outs with the thugs among us but HELL NO--we have to put our freedom and finances at serious risk even in a "justified" shooting incident. By the time you determine that you meet all the criteria for displaying, much less using, a gun you might as well throw a rock!
    Some say they'd rather be "judged by 12 than carried by 6". Well, I don't know. If I were to loose everything I own and be sentenced to 5 years in prison because some thug had a slick lawyer I'd be glad I had a back-up gun--to use on myself!
    Much as I hate cold weather it's almost enough to make me want to move to Alaska--the ONLY state with proper armed self-defense laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelenka View Post
    Yes indeed, we are at the cutting edge of progressive CCW laws--LOL. I got my permit a few weeks ago and after I had it laminated it makes a fairly good window scraper on cold mornings. I have a sweet Kahr T9 I can shoot very well but I will NOT carry until things change in this State AND in most of the country as well.
    The unfortunate thing is that the antis want you to do just that....NOT carry. You are becoming part of that culture when you decide not to carry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zelenka View Post
    We should be rewarded for our willingness to risk our lives in potential shoot-outs with the thugs among us but HELL NO--we have to put our freedom and finances at serious risk even in a "justified" shooting incident. By the time you determine that you meet all the criteria for displaying, much less using, a gun you might as well throw a rock!
    The unfortunate thing is, no matter what laws are enacted to protect us criminally should we ever need to defend ourselves, we will ALWAYS face the civil aspect. Yes it can be a money draining endeavor. The lawyers have made this possible. We need reform that protects us from civil suits. The laws in this States are bizarre!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zelenka View Post
    Some say they'd rather be "judged by 12 than carried by 6". Well, I don't know. If I were to loose everything I own and be sentenced to 5 years in prison because some thug had a slick lawyer I'd be glad I had a back-up gun--to use on myself!
    Much as I hate cold weather it's almost enough to make me want to move to Alaska--the ONLY state with proper armed self-defense laws.
    I agree to an extent. But I live here now. I should have researched more before I relocated here, but I did not. Therefore, I will do all I can to get the laws changed to make it better for a Law Abiding Citizen to be able to defend themselves without all the restrictions that are currently in place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubccat51 View Post
    Do you not support his right to open carry if he so chooses?
    I support anyone's right to open carry.
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    I'd be interested, if you're ever up Greensboro way, to see how the local banks take to open carry. I carry every time I leave my apartment here but I haven't even tried going open carry. Too many gun-shy sheeple I'm afraid will call the cops on me live here. I'd much rather uncover my USP when walking into a bank than leave it in the car, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kivuli View Post
    I'd be interested, if you're ever up Greensboro way, to see how the local banks take to open carry. I carry every time I leave my apartment here but I haven't even tried going open carry. Too many gun-shy sheeple I'm afraid will call the cops on me live here. I'd much rather uncover my USP when walking into a bank than leave it in the car, however.
    I have yet to see anyone in North Carolina open carry. I have been here for almost 9 months and I have not seen a one. I know it happens, but have not seen it. Let alone in a bank.


    I agree with your statement of rather have it carried open opposed to leaving it in the car.

    Still trying to determine which beaches are not so called state beaches. Like Carolina Beach, is it legal to carry concealed there? I know Fort Fisher is a state park and weapons are a no-no there....

    Anyone know where one can get a well defined list of off limit places?


    Thanks....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JM40.Cal View Post
    I live out east, and have carried up and down the crystal coast (Atlantic Beach, Jacksonville, Havelock, Emerald Isle, Morehead City, New Bern, Beaufort) as well as Greenville, Raleigh, and other random places around here.

    I said it before and I'll say it again, the "going armed to the terror of the people" bit is a non-issue. If a cop tries to arrest you for this, you would have every right to resist as it would be an illegal arrest (assuming, of course, that you are simply carrying a sidearm in a holster). You can't let crap like this scare you from exercising your rights. If you do, then you've already lost your rights to begin with.

    CarolinaJohn, what county do you live in? I will be more than happy to visit a bank in your area to make my point. Openly carried weapons are NOT PROHIBITED in financial institutions, period. Only once have I been questioned for doing this. A man asked, rather loudly, why I had a gun in, of all places, the bank. I told him that State law prohibited me from carrying concealed in a bank even with my permit, so I HAD to carry it like this. He shut up, and everyone else realized I knew what I was doing.

    It has already been stated that Chapel Hill is the only municipality with any restrictions specifically on openly carried weapons. The minimum is 6", and even a small Walther PPK qualifies.

    As long as you familiarize yourself with NC's gun laws, you will be fine openly carrying. I invite anyone and everyone who carries in NC to do so openly. I couldn't tell you how many people I have educated about their rights and freedoms just because I was carrying. Every person I have met and talked to had no idea that it was legal to carry a firearm for personal protection without having to get permission from the state. You just have to be 18 and legally own your firearm...that's it. I've even been invited to "stop by often" by business owners because they appreciate what I do.

    Ok sorry I'll stop ranting. It just irks me when people tell you "it may be legal, but it's just not a good idea". If you don't use your rights, you'll lose your rights. Remember that.

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