Let's talk DISASTER...

[longslide10]

Well it's obvious big brother is prepping for something whether civil unrest from an economic disaster or natural disaster or another false flag attack so it would be wise to start stocking up on dried goods that provide proteins, fibers, fats etc.
Things like legumes, pastas, rice, nuts, dried fruits, MRE's. Get yourself a high quality portable water filter.

Unless your neighborhood is flooded or wiped out for some other reason staying put and organizing with neighbors is better than being on your own out in the open. I know many of my immediate neighbors are clueless or refuse to believe that something ugly can happen here but the ones farther down or up the street that I don't normally associate with may not be clueless and may also have been preparing so I'll need to eventually seek them out.

I tried to do some stocking up but due to long term loss of income I have about 2 days worth of food. I have noticed an increase of deer around so they could supply protein but as far as anything else I will have to barter with others for other needs. I, like Ringo, believe we are living in the last days the bible speaks of so when the time comes I'll be ready for the ultimate getaway called the rapture but until that time I'll try to survive best I can.

[Treo]

Well it's obvious big brother is prepping for something whether civil unrest from an economic disaster or natural disaster or another false flag attack so it would be wise to start stocking up on dried goods that provide proteins, fibers, fats etc.
Things like legumes, pastas, rice, nuts, dried fruits, MRE's. Get yourself a high quality portable water filter.

It is a known historical fact that the U.S. government has invested money in paranormal activity research Think “The Men Who Stare at Goats”. So if it’s true they spent money on that I don’t think it’s too far out there that they had some one read the bible and developed a response plan for the disasters mentioned in it. Especially since those are all natural disasters that could happen whether the Bible is true or not.

Also I doubt most of us could afford to go out and buy a pallet of MREs or stock up for 2 years all at once but I’m positive everyone here can afford to add an extra can or so of tuna fish or a pound or two of rice or beans to the shopping list every week or hit the canned goods clearance rack every so often. You’d be surprised how fast that stuff adds up.

[walt629]

Okay... here's the question. And this is directed to those of us that don't live on a 40 acre ranch with climate controlled out buildings or a root cellar/ bomb shelter, or have a basement. I'm talking about the average Joe that as a limited amount of space they call "their own".

Where do you store all the survival stuff? 6 month to 2 years worth of food? Where the heck are you storing it? That is a huge volume of material. You can't store it in an uncontrolled environment like the garage. In the winter you run the risk of freezing and bursting cans, bottels etc., and in the summer you run the risk of bursting due to heat. Obviously the dry goods don't fall into this question but even dry goods need to be nitrogen charged and hermetically sealed to be truly safely preserved. Nothing worse than going for the 5 gallong bucket of rice to find it rotted because it wasn't sealed.

Have you devoted part of or a whole room of your house to stockpiles? And if you have the requisite 2 years of food supplies, how are you going to move it when it come time to bug out? Or are the ones with the 2 year supply the same ones that will hunker down and ride out the storm?

[Treo]

I don't discuss specifics when it comes to my preps I'll just say I own my own home and what's in it is my business

[PestControl02]

Okay... here's the question. And this is directed to those of us that don't live on a 40 acre ranch with climate controlled out buildings or a root cellar/ bomb shelter, or have a basement. I'm talking about the average Joe that as a limited amount of space they call "their own".

Where do you store all the survival stuff? 6 month to 2 years worth of food? Where the heck are you storing it? That is a huge volume of material. You can't store it in an uncontrolled environment like the garage. In the winter you run the risk of freezing and bursting cans, bottels etc., and in the summer you run the risk of bursting due to heat. Obviously the dry goods don't fall into this question but even dry goods need to be nitrogen charged and hermetically sealed to be truly safely preserved. Nothing worse than going for the 5 gallong bucket of rice to find it rotted because it wasn't sealed.

Have you devoted part of or a whole room of your house to stockpiles? And if you have the requisite 2 years of food supplies, how are you going to move it when it come time to bug out? Or are the ones with the 2 year supply the same ones that will hunker down and ride out the storm?

We live in a condo, and space is an issue. Regular usage eliminates the need for nitrogen packs & all that other stuff.
For my family it's all about rotation, we store foods we use regularly and our storage is more around 30 days worth, it could probably be stretched further if needed, like, 1/2 the calories per day could double the effective supply.
I also do a small "container" garden- so heirloom seeds are stored also.

At my house, only the garage is 100% mine, meaning the one area my wife has no jurisdiction..lol..space issues prompted me to condense everything into workable "systems"..like my "medical" system (a large tool box)..contains all our first aid related items & gear. (my wife is a nurse so it's probably more advanced than most would have)
my "sanitation" system is in a 5 gallon pail with a toilet seat lid..contains toilet paper, hand sanitizer, baby wipes, garbage bags, etc..
I have an "electricity" system..discussed earlier..has flashlights, batteries, extension cords, etc..

All this and more easily fits on one 5 shelf wire "bakers" rack. and makes it the go-to spot for emergency needs in my house, which I like...no running around trying to remember where you put the radio or band aids or whatever.

I don't think theres a right or wrong answer, it really boils down to what you have & what you can do with it.

like others said..a water filter is a must have, and buying a few extra cans of tuna or an extra bag of rice is within almost everyone's budget..a few days of food is better than none.

[Ringo]

The Russians and Chinese don't need to bomb the USA anymore. That would have been suicide, when it is just as easy for them to wait for a US federal bankruptcy.

The rag turbanned gihadists may sneak a nuke into NYC or LA or SF though. In that case, you would need to evacuate immediately, within a few hours after the blast, to avoid the fallout.

Yup, big question is which one will happen first.

[NotTwoShure]

Something else to think about, all the network news stations are telling us that food prices are going to go way up over the course of the next year. I'd say now would be the time to start stocking up on nonperisables if for no other reason than they're never going to be this cheap again.

A point of advice for all maybe, or just my opinion. Pasta, Top Ramen soup noodles and rice.
The pasta is easy to store, the Ramen is cheap and filling, rice I have dug up a few ideas from the Prepper sites and survival sites. It appears if you take the rice, separate into zip-lock baggies ( I like the type that have the little white sealer tab ) and freeze for a month to kill little bitty creatures is will last a while. With canned goods, the supposed shelf life is printed on the lid and depending on the content/type will last one or two years. Again, I refer to my paranoia of the Y-2-K era. Last October I dug out 20 cans of sealed rice and 20 cans of pinto beans. Maybe, just maybe we could have eaten the rice. However, it would be a real survival issue. It really was bad rice and the beans, no.

[NotTwoShure]

I am of the opinion China, Russia; Muslim extremists just have to do one or two things. China only has to stop making things. Check out your laptop, DVD programs for the Windows-7, MS-Office 2010 and all the cables to the printers and even the Wi-Fi router. All have made in China stamped on them. Wal-Mart would go out of business. Can you believe the insanity of having our prized software, personal computers and the like made by our soon to be enemies?
Here is a scenario. A big airliner, 747, is flying the friendly skies. There is a problem. The captain and copilot need to consult the operating manual. It is now on an iPad. The iPod is made in China. The ChiComs have put a bug into the electronics of the plane systems and the ipad; they all crash at the same time that means the system operators, a.k.a. pilots, have no hard copy to consult. What happens?
Another issue is the fact the ChiCom’s merchant fleet and navy may all be used to surround us, blockade us and starve us out. Then, when we are too weak to fight, the craft are turned into landing craft.
Our gasoline is partly refined in Brazil. We have no reserves of much of anything. We will not be able to buy our way out of this.
What happens when you max out your credit card, line of credit of your home and your savings are all gone? You put a barrel over your bare butt and beg at the boarder for some beans. No, once everything is depleted you starve. We are at the end of our financial worth.
Pretty simple, make you want a supernova or a giant asteroid to hit us and get it over with.
As in the Lord of the Rings trilogy, the time of man was come and I fear now gone.
Nevertheless, as with Y2K, I most likely am wrong, I hope.
However, I have my faith now, read the Book and it all ends pretty well. For me and my faith, but, still I try and be little prepared. Just saying.

[Treo]

For those who don’t have a lot of space, you do the best you can with what you have. There are two cabinets in our kitchen that my wife and I could eat out of for two months w/ out doing any outside shopping. We may not be eating full course meals during that time but we’d be getting enough of the necessary nutrients to get by on.

Again survival isn’t about living like a king and also again you don’t want to be the only one on your block that’s gaining weight especially if food is being confiscated for redistribution.

The nail that sticks up gets hammered down.

[Treo]

For those who don’t have a lot of space, you do the best you can with what you have. There are two cabinets in our kitchen that my wife and I could eat out of for two months w/ out doing any outside shopping. We may not be eating full course meals during that time but we’d be getting enough of the necessary nutrients to get by on.

Again survival isn’t about living like a king and also again you don’t want to be the only one on your block that’s gaining weight especially if food is being confiscated for redistribution.

The nail that sticks up gets hammered down.