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This is a discussion on Cost of illegal aliens within the Off-Topic forums, part of the Main Category category; It's easy to dismiss individual government programs until they're put together and this picture emerges. Someone did a lot of ...

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    It's easy to dismiss individual government programs until they're put together and this picture emerges. Someone did a lot of research to put together all of this data. Often these programs are buried within other programs, making them difficult to find.
    A Real M-Eye Opener
    WHY is the USA BANKRUPT?

    You think the war in Iraq was costing
    us too much? Read this:

    We have been hammered with the
    propaganda that it was the Iraq war and
    the war on terror that is bankrupting us.

    I hope the following 14 reasons are
    forwarded over and over again until
    they are read so many times that the
    reader gets sick of reading them. I also
    have included the URL's for verification
    of all the following facts.

    1.
    $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare
    to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
    Verify
    at: Home | Federation for American Immigration Reform

    2.
    $22 Billion dollars a year is spent on food
    assistance programs such as food stamps,
    WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
    Verify
    at: The High Cost of Cheap Labor | Center for Immigration Studies

    3.
    $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on
    Medicaid for illegal aliens.
    Verify at:
    The High Cost of Cheap Labor | Center for Immigration Studies

    4.
    $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on
    primary and secondary school education
    for children here illegally and they
    cannot speak a word of English!
    Verify
    at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscrip.../ldt....0.HTML

    5.
    $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for
    education for the American-born
    children of illegal aliens, known as
    anchor babies.
    Verify
    at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscrip...01/ldt.01.HTML

    6.
    $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to
    incarcerate illegal aliens.
    Verify at:
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/%20TRANsc...01/ldt.01.HTML
    7.
    30% percent of all Federal Prison
    inmates are illegal aliens.
    Verify at:
    http://transcripts.CNN..com/TRANscri.../ldt...01.HTML

    8.
    $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on
    illegal aliens for Welfare & social
    services by the American taxpayers.
    Verify
    at: http://premium.cnn..com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01..HTML

    9.
    $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed
    American wages are caused by the illegal
    aliens.
    Verify
    at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI

    13.
    In 2006, Illegal aliens sent home
    $45 BILLION in remittances to their
    countries of origin.
    Verify
    at:.
    14.
    The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration:
    Nearly One million sex crimes committed
    by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ..
    Verify
    at:http: // www.drdsk.com/articleshtml


    The total cost is a whopping
    $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS
    A YEAR AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME,
    HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING
    THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS
    $338,300,000,000.00
    WHICH
    WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE
    THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF
    THIS COUNTRY.

    Are we THAT Stupid?

    YES, FOR ALLOWING THOSE IN THE U.S. CONGRESS
    TO GET AWAY WITH DOING THIS YEAR AFTER
    YEAR!!!!!
    “Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master.” – Dwight D. Eisenhower

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    Debray, it would most likely cost the US less to keep them out with military protected borders, than it does to support them once in the US because there are most likely more programs than the ones you have listed that we aren't aware apply to this section of our population.
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    The true cost is freedom and privacy. 800 more pages the sheep won't read.

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/05/immigration-reform-dossiers/

    National facial recognition database? What's next biometric tracking chips? All to ID illegals by further serializing the American public. Sound familiar?
    Guns.??? What Guns???

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    This is something the lib-o-rats want to hide from us!!!!!!

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    You really do not want to get me started on this, but I truly wish more people would get this out there. From MY research, these numbers are very conservative. Maybe it's because I live near a couple of small sanctuary cities. Maybe it's because I see more of it than a lot of people do. Even though putting a halt to these programs would go a long ways to ending the huge deficit, our liberal leaders cannot bring themselves to even consider it. In fact, it's probably at the top of their list of things "not to be considered".
    Most all of the promises that the Gang of Eight made in relation to amnesty have already been proven to be broken. They will even be given millions of dollars to sue the U.S. for amnesty. This is mainly for those denied because of felony records and such. And we need this, why?

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    This do make me sick, and to think that all of the money we give to Egypt and not to mention the other country we give to. Is it time for me to move my family to ours private inland now, I think so.

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    Let's look back and see that this is not new. We have been allowing people into our country forever, for them to feel safe in a nation of freedoms. It is my opinion that many of those who came to this country were so used to being ruled instead of free men they wanted it back and have support movements that have brought us to this moment in time.
    Here is my problem; those who come to this country and allowed to live, grow, and populate this nation without being United States citizens legally. Don't get me wrong they can legally be here in this country but don't feel it necessary to become a US citizen. DO THEY TRULY WISH TO BELONG or just enjoy the freedoms they didn't fight for EVER.

    Man could be deported for 1970 conviction - New Philadelphia, OH - The Times-Reporter


    “Did you commit this robbery?” the attorney asked her client.

    Emil Jaroszyk (pronounced Ja-ross-ik) had answered that question many times over the years. First, as a young man when he was arrested for the crime. Then later, on a polygraph test. He told friends and relatives his truth before he went to prison and after he got out. Here he was again this month, as a much older man, answering that same question inside the same Carroll County Courthouse where he stood trial for the crime 42 years ago.

    Dressed in a brown sport coat, his patterned burgundy and gray tie furled up as he leaned forward in the witness stand. The 66-year-old, with brownish-red hair and a grayish goatee, often stutters when he talks. Not this time. His answer was simple, clean and to the point. It matched what he has maintained for the past four decades.

    “No, I did not,” Jaroszyk said in his Ukrainian accent.

    He did not rob those farmers at gunpoint, he insisted now — as he did then.

    The judge back then didn’t believe him. Jaroszyk was convicted of that 1970 robbery. He served four months behind bars. After his release, he put it behind him. He returned to his job at United Engineering, a northeast Canton factory where he works to this day. He raised four daughters and added five grandchildren and two great-grandchildren. His youngest daughter, Sarah, a junior at Louisville High School, still calls him “daddy.”

    Life was good.

    “The American dream,” explained another daughter, Talinia.

    Until, that is, a letter arrived in the mail at his Nimishillen Township home last summer. It was from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. The words were so shocking, he could barely digest them. He took the letter to the immigration office in Cleveland. The government, Jaroszyk learned, wants to deport him, because federal law labels him a violent criminal, based on that old robbery conviction.

    “Emil is such a good man,” said his son-in-law, David Gongola. “The whole stinking thing about all this is he’s done everything right.”

    Jaroszyk’s best — and perhaps only — hope to remain here is to prove he is innocent of that four-decades-old robbery. That’s what brought him back to Carroll County for the January hearing. To avoid deportation, he needs the current judge to throw out that old conviction and order a new trial.



    Nimishillen Twp. man may be saved from deportation - New Philadelphia, OH - The Times-Reporter

    NIMISHILLEN TWP. —



    The Jaroszyk family patriarch is staying home — at least for now.

    Emil Jaroszyk, a 66-year-old husband, father and grandfather, faced the harsh reality of possible deportation from the country this summer, due to a 42-year-old robbery conviction. Even worse, he’d have been sent to Germany, a country he’s not so much as visited since he left it at the age of 5.

    Jaroszyk, though, was granted a reprieve.

    Carroll County Common Pleas Judge Dominick E. Olivito, Jr. issued a decision last Friday vacating the old robbery conviction, meaning it no longer exists. Further, the judge granted him the right to a new trial.

    It’s not yet clear what happens next.

    Assistant County Prosecutor Steven Barnett and Prosecutor Donald R. Burns had both fought Jaroszyk’s effort to nix the conviction and get a new trial. They’ve said he was fairly convicted by a jury four decades ago.

    On Thursday, Barnett said they hadn’t decided their next step. He said they have three basic options: 1. Try the case again. 2. Ask Olivito to dismiss the robbery charges. 3. Appeal Olivito’s decision to a higher court.

    THE CHARGES

    Here’s how this all started:

    Jaroszyk began making Social Security benefits inquiries last year, as he prepared to retire from Canton’s United Engineering, the factory where he’d worked for more than 40 years. That ultimately triggered a review, which revealed he had been convicted of a robbery in Carroll County in 1971.

    Jaroszyk already knew that.

    Federal authorities had apparently not noticed it before.

    And since Jaroszyk lived in the U.S. as a permanent legal resident since fleeing post-World War II Europe, he’s subject to a host of conditions to remain in the country. One of those conditions — no aggravated felonies.

    So, last year he hired Cleveland immigration attorney Elena Lougovskaia.

    Her plan was to present new evidence that showed Jaroszyk was wrongly convicted. If a judge vacated his conviction, he’d no longer be subject to deportation. Besides, Jaroszyk had always maintained his innocence. He said he was not one of the two masked men who robbed two Ukrainian farmers in Carroll County in 1970, though he was convicted and spent 10 months in prison.

    MAKING THE CASE

    During a hearing before Olivito in January, Lougovskaia presented evidence that seemed to indicate two other men committed the crime. In addition, former Carroll County Sheriff William Offenberger (a deputy at the time of the robberies) testified that more investigation after the conviction had convinced him Jaroszyk was innocent.
    Offenberger said those findings were shared with then-Judge Paul Perkins. That information, he said, is why the judge granted Jaroszyk shock probation after 10 months. However, the rationale was not documented in court records.

    In Olivitio’s decision, he noted that Jaroszyk’s attorneys in the early 1970s should have advised him of deportation consequences; that the conviction was based largely on testimony which has since been discredited; and that the real robbers were the ones who suggested that Jaroszyk was the culprit.

    Olivito wrote: “The 40-year-old record in this case is the backdrop for the current drama ... (Jaroszyk) once having had an injustice imperfectly corrected, now suffers the catastrophic emergence of the additional punishment for his 1971 felony conviction, the threatened and very reality of deportation.”


    Nimishillen Twp. man may be saved from deportation - New Philadelphia, OH - The Times-Reporter Photo of Emil making the following quote.
    Emil Jaroszyk: “I always felt I was American, that I didn’t need a piece of paper.”

    Let me say that we have many young men and women serving in our militaries who are not citizens legally but I trust that after putting thier lives on the line they will become US citizens. There have been group ceremonies where groups of our military have taken the oath of citizenship together while on active duty and they all deserve our respect.
    But what have those who don't become citizens done to help promote our nation toward its republic form over all others.
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    This thread isn't about how you could buy one?

    Dog<> on a serious note it's great to know that people out there do appreciate America and it's promise. Just wish more felt that way whether or not they have "certification".
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