Homeschooling Banned in California

HK4U · #31 10-05-2008, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Oregon Vet

Hey, hey, take it easy there, festus. Don't be including us in with "those" down there on that part of the West Coast! (although we DO have too many of "those" people... even here in Oregon... same as you do back there.)

I am afraid the whole country is full of them.

NDS · #32 10-05-2008, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by festus

I am about 2 steps to the right of Rush Limbaugh on most topics.
We homeschooled our kids to ensure the following:

1. they could read and write
2. the subject matter would contain truthful history...not spun to the left or right
3. God would be present in daily activities as this is just how our family is.

I teach junior high school math and science. I believe parents should have every right to educate their children at home or in a private (even religious) school. My only requirement would be that students be able to pass the same government-mandated tests public school students are given. This is generally a non-issue with good parents who home-school.

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I think that NDS will agree that we have a constitutional right to freedom of religion. (I can go to the church of my choice and worship how I feel is best suited to my families needs)

I believe in the absolute minimal government interference in our lives. All peaceful voluntary associations should be strictly hands-off for the government. That includes your churches / clubs / etc.

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We also have a constitutional right to freedom of speech (NDS is allowed to voice his opinion and HK4U and I are allowed to voice ours.)

We all have a common thread here of loving freedom and liberty. Guns are just a means of making sure freedom and liberty hang around for a while.

Thank you. I am here because I value my right to defend myself and my family. I speak out at work in favor of the Constitution and our rights it recognizes (you think you've got a tough audience?) One thing that often annoys me when people begin to attack those without religious belief is a common assumption such people are amoral. Believe it or not, my morals and those of most non-believers, are pretty similar to those of most believers. And I don't need fear of supernatural punishment to live by those morals, the fact that it is the right thing to do is sufficient.

Oregon Vet · #33 10-05-2008, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by HK4U

...I would doubt it because them being in church does not make one a Christian any more that (sic) a mouse getting in a cookie jar makes it a cookie.

So many people don't seem to understand that; that "going" to church does NOT make them a Christian. That is just a "part" of what makes a Christian.

I think there is probably a lot larger percentage than most think... that if they go to church they are a Christian. Ah, maybe someday they will find out, eh?

HK4U · #34 10-05-2008, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NDS

I teach junior high school math and science. I believe parents should have every right to educate their children at home or in a private (even religious) school. My only requirement would be that students be able to pass the same government-mandated tests public school students are given. This is generally a non-issue with good parents who home-school.

I believe in the absolute minimal government interference in our lives. All peaceful voluntary associations should be strictly hands-off for the government. That includes your churches / clubs / etc.

Thank you. I am here because I value my right to defend myself and my family. I speak out at work in favor of the Constitution and our rights it recognizes (you think you've got a tough audience?) One thing that often annoys me when people begin to attack those without religious belief is a common assumption such people are amoral. Believe it or not, my morals and those of most non-believers, are pretty similar to those of most believers. And I don't need fear of supernatural punishment to live by those morals, the fact that it is the right thing to do is sufficient.

NDS although we have our differences I do agree with you on the issues of morals. I have known some who do not profess to be a Christian and have a very high moral standard. I have also known church members who leave their morals at the church doorstep when they leave for home.

Oregon Vet · #35 10-05-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by HK4U

I am afraid the whole country is full of them.

Yep, I think we made a wrong turn somewhere. The USA is like a garden and they are the weeds. We should have weeded them out a long time ago. Now there seems to be more weeds than the good stuff.

Maybe all those FAR LEFT & FAR RIGHT people do have the right to live as they wish, but no, they have to try to ruin everything for the normal people who just want to go through life, having a little fun, having a little money left over on payday... not having "those" people coming up with a new tax all the time to give more of our money to support people who are too lazy to work.

And all too many of "those" people don't know how to work, so they get into politics and give themselves a raise all too often, while us blue collar workers get a raise about every million years...for 10 cents more and hour, of course, about 15-20$ a month more. Nothing like their raise of 1,000-2,000$ a month (or more).

We have to do something, BUT, no one wants to break any eggs, and we are going to HAVE to break some eggs to fix it, we are way past just talking it fixed.

How sad for America and the Americans who care.

tattedupboy · #36 10-06-2008, 04:32 AM

What else is there to say except that the People's Republic of California is a cancer on the body of liberty that needs to be exposed to radiation, so that the rest of America can be cancer free.

Oregon Vet · #37 10-06-2008, 10:34 PM

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None of this really matters, God love you all, and expects nothing in return.

Be well.

Really? Why do people spend so much time and money on churches and religion then?

What are they afraid of?

I have studied religion a little bit, and ALL that I have studied have promised BAD happening to you if you don't bow down to the old gray haired geezer people call God.

Sounds like you have a good religion, Roger. Can kill, rape and murder all you want and still go to Heaven. Pretty easy going God you have there, and (HE) expects nothing in return?

Where do we sign up at? Sounds like one of the best ones I have heard of. How many naked virgins are included for the guys? What to the women get out of it? Naked studs?

What is the name of your religion, I 'll study it next, maybe. I've done a little study of the cults (by definition, all religions are cults) of Pentecostalism, Scientology and am presently studying the Jehovahs Witnesses religion.

Religions are fun reading, most have you suffering forever if you don't bow down to their God.

Through history, religion has been the cause of 99+% of mankinds problems. Doesn't look like that is going to change anytime soon.