Call in "gay" day tomorrow??

**tattedupboy** · 12-10-2008, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by Boomboy007

Homosexuality used to be listed as a mental disorder, but was removed from the official in 1973:

"In 1973, the weight of empirical data, coupled with changing social norms and the development of a politically active gay community in the United States, led the Board of Directors of the American Psychiatric Association to remove homosexuality from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)."

As gpbarth stated earlier, he is not against the gay couple next door trying to live a reasonably normal life, but with the freak show that occurs at some parades. Considering this, shouldn't these couples be allowed to "marry" or "unionize" or whatever they need to do in order to mainstream? It seems that we are punishing those who want to live as we do.

IMHO, I think that maybe the government should get out of the marriage business altogether. If we need some kind of civil recognition, then let the civil union be the one that the government recognizes, and let the church marry its own members. In fact, I believe that is the way it has been until relatively recently in human history. Just a thought (I have so few these days).

I am aware of homosexuality being regarded as a mental illness until 1973, and I believe that our Constitution applies to them (however deviant their lifestyles are in my eyes and in the eyes of God) just as much as it does to straight married couples. What I don't like is their campaign to make people believe that there is nothing wrong with their behavior; a simple look at the anatomies of males and females should lead any clear-thinking person to conclude that there is absolutely nothing "normal" or natural about homosexuality.

P.S. If there are people out there who are serious about using their deviant lifestyle as a crutch to get out of work for a day, I think that the companies for which they work should unequivocally let them know that if they do it, they're fired.

**toreskha** · 12-10-2008, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Glock Fan

Sad part is that if it does turn into a "firing", then you'll get wrapped up in a very ugly and messy lawsuit. They'll claim discrimination due to sexual orientation.

gf

I'll make sure to get a legal defense fund together if I ever start hiring employees.

**tattedupboy** · 12-11-2008, 03:24 AM

Originally Posted by toreskha

I'll make sure to get a legal defense fund together if I ever start hiring employees.

No reasonable jury would ever look at sexual orientation as a reason for someone to be calling off from work.

**Glock Fan** · 12-11-2008, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by tattedupboy

No reasonable jury would ever look at sexual orientation as a reason for someone to be calling off from work.

Would still cost a lot of time and money to defend the business in court though.

gf

**tattedupboy** · 12-11-2008, 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by Glock Fan

Would still cost a lot of time and money to defend the business in court though.

gf

Which is why we need a law to prevent people from using that as a crutch to keep their jobs.

**Boomboy007** · 12-13-2008, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by tattedupboy

I am aware of homosexuality being regarded as a mental illness until 1973, and I believe that our Constitution applies to them (however deviant their lifestyles are in my eyes and in the eyes of God) just as much as it does to straight married couples. What I don't like is their campaign to make people believe that there is nothing wrong with their behavior; a simple look at the anatomies of males and females should lead any clear-thinking person to conclude that there is absolutely nothing "normal" or natural about homosexuality.

P.S. If there are people out there who are serious about using their deviant lifestyle as a crutch to get out of work for a day, I think that the companies for which they work should unequivocally let them know that if they do it, they're fired.

Hey, Tat, I know that this seems like a huge deal for you. I think that, if you step back a bit and take the wider view, you will find that it is not nearly the world shaker that you are letting it become. As for your anatomy reference, all that I see are bolts and sockets. While you could argue morality, anatomically they don't seem to have much trouble finding a good fit.

Also, there are many, many documented instances of homosexual behavior among most of "God's creatures", both mammalian and not. If you simply go by the numbers, then there are lots of groups who are not "normal" or "natural". Do we restart the pogroms against the left handed or the red haired?

As for letting the gays out for a day just because they are gay..... well...... everybody needs a mental health day, right?

If we were to carry your argument to its logical conclusion, all those crazy Christians in other countries (Lebanon, Malaysia, China, etc.) should be fired for taking off on Christmas to celebrate their "deviant" lifestyle. Maybe it is because you are young, but as you get older you will realize that "deviant" is relative. If you are a christian, just think about what Jesus would have counseled regarding firing a guy cause he liked other guys. I'm guessing you would hear some sort of riff on love, patience, and compassion. I don't recall JC ever counseling anyone to hit, kill, make fun of, or fire ANYONE.

You are still one of my favorite posters, Tatty.

**HK4U** · 12-13-2008, 12:44 PM

God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.

gpbarth · 12-13-2008, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Boomboy007

Hey, Tat, I know that this seems like a huge deal for you. I think that, if you step back a bit and take the wider view, you will find that it is not nearly the world shaker that you are letting it become. As for your anatomy reference, all that I see are bolts and sockets.

Show me two bolts connected together, or two sockets.

While you could argue morality, anatomically they don't seem to have much trouble finding a good fit.

Also, there are many, many documented instances of homosexual behavior among most of "God's creatures", both mammalian and not. If you simply go by the numbers, then there are lots of groups who are not "normal" or "natural". Do we restart the pogroms against the left handed or the red haired?

Sex is for reproduction, although it's fun (it was made that way so the species would continue to reproduce). And no one is starting a pogrom against the "not normal" groups. Left-handed, red-haired, or even black, are not abnormalities. But homosexuality is an aberration. It is abnormal. It may occur among a percnetage of our humanity, but that does not mnake it normal. Testicles produce sperm, which is placed in the woman through intercourse, where it fertilizes an egg, and a child is conceived. That is science, and any alteration of that is an aberration.

As for letting the gays out for a day just because they are gay..... well...... everybody needs a mental health day, right?

The day off was a protest, not a request for a holiday. Gays have all of the holidays that the rest of us do. And if I decided to take a day off because I was protesting, then I'd either sacrifice a sick day, a vacation day, or lose the pay for that day.

If we were to carry your argument to its logical conclusion, all those crazy Christians in other countries (Lebanon, Malaysia, China, etc.) should be fired for taking off on Christmas to celebrate their "deviant" lifestyle. Maybe it is because you are young, but as you get older you will realize that "deviant" is relative. If you are a christian, just think about what Jesus would have counseled regarding firing a guy cause he liked other guys. I'm guessing you would hear some sort of riff on love, patience, and compassion. I don't recall JC ever counseling anyone to hit, kill, make fun of, or fire ANYONE.

Homosexuality is not a religion, it is a lifestyle. And right now, those of you who think that everything is "relative" are protesting Christian symbols and lifestyles, and demanding that Christians be prosecuted for "hate speech" because they quote from the Bible. Truth is not relative, no matter how to try to make it so. And if you were to read YOUR Bible, Jesus forgave a lot of sinners, including a prostitute. At which time He told her to "go and sin no more." He didn't tell her that what she did was okay because He loved her anyway. He didn't condone her sin, He forgave it and told her to stop doing it. And lastly, Jesus also said to "render unto Caesar the things that were Caesar's and to God the things that were God's." If an employee is not holding up their end of the employment contract, the company has every tight to fire them, and don't go asking Jesus to intervene.

I have nothing against gays personally. If they want to live that way, in privacy, it's fine with me. And if they want to make a contract binding upon themselves as couples, that's fine with me, too. Live and let live. Just don't try to get special privileges for being gay, and don't ask their unions to be called "marriage."

And that's all I have to say about that.

**HK4U** · 12-13-2008, 05:03 PM

Jesus forgave a lot of sinners, including a prostitute. At which time He told her to "go and sin no more." He didn't tell her that what she did was okay because He loved her anyway. He didn't condone her sin, He forgave it and told her to stop doing it.

gpbarth glad you posted that. I have noticed over the years that a lot of people that like to bring that verse up leave that last part off. I wonder why?

**Boomboy007** · 12-14-2008, 06:00 AM