I believe the purpose of the death penalty is not punishment. (I believe criminal sentencing should include punishment (this should be unpleaseant enough the criminal never wants to go through it again), Rehabilitation (why did you do this in the first place and how do we make it so you not want to do it again), and monitored reintoduction into society.
The death penalty should be used when a person is incapable of being reintroduced into society, such as serial murders and child molesters.
It is not vengence, it is not punishment, it is necessary. It does not matter what they have done, we should not take pleasure in the death of another, no matter how justified.
As a human, we must love, not hate; have compassion, not fear. This, I believe is part of our highest purpose.
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.
Robert A. Heinlein
An eye for an eye.....
I do not take pleasure in someone having to die... I do support the death penalty - I am not sure about rehabilitation, as I have a close friend who was attacked, by someone who was reintroduced into society, the parole baoard, believed they had figured out why, and that he would never do it again.
There is just not enough manpower to monitor such - Most of our judical systems, can not monitor things of this nature successfully. Take the DHS system, there are so many children that fall through the cracks, and so many children that should be supervisored because of neglect charges or abuse compliants, and something terrible still happens to them...
I couldn't agree more. The system needs a complete overhaul, from top to bottom, so our court systems seek TRUTH and JUSTICE (money, legal manipulations, politics need to be removed from the Justice system), our Punishment centers and rehabilitation centers (2 different things) are clear on their missions, our parole system acutally monitors its charges and they are removed from society again, if need be.
Our current system is a training ground for criminals. Even if they were not violent, hardened criminals when they went in, they will be when they come out, with enhanced education and training in being a criminal. What are we doing???
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.
Robert A. Heinlein
I agree with Wolfling68 - except for the: our parole system acutally monitors its charges and they are removed from society again, if need be.
Unfortunately, most of the times, it is too late... They are to report and submit to testing, etc, but if they are removed for any reason, it is usually because they violated a condition of the parole, which can be deadly in some cases.
Believe me, I am not young and naive, I used to be a trusting person, and believed the best in all people. But with the times the way they are, all of the mass shootings, I do not trust hardly anyone...
Myself, to know and do the right thing, God to lead me in the right direction and to help me make the right decisions and help me along the way - but most of all I trust my S&W in case the first two are not an option....
My favorite author put an incident in one of his books that involved a serviceman who was arrested for rape while AWOL. The punishment for AWOL, not in a time of war, was a Dishonorable discharge. The punishment for rape was execution. The explanation was this: If insanity was a factor, 2 things could happen execution or treatment, and if cured, what sane person could live with the guilt of their crime? If they weren't insane, one could never be sure temptation wouldn't overpower rehabilitation. Hence, the appropriate punishment.
The book? Starship Troopers by R.A. Heinlein
Last edited by wolfhunter; 04-17-2009 at 07:06 PM. Reason: added book reference
There are some people whose actions are so heinous that they need to be executed. As a correctional Sergeant at the United States Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth in the 80’s I had an opportunity to witness some of these people first hand.
Charles Ng Profile of Sadistic Killer, Charles Chi-tat Ng
and Wyatt Matthews The crime of Wyatt Matthews | National Review | Find Articles at BNET
are just two such people. Ng was not in for murder but upon his release went on to become a serial killer. Matthews was on death row and was first in line for execution. While in prison he converted to Nation of Islam. I watched with disdain as President Reagan allowed the military death penalty laws to be revised in 1984 thereby commuting his sentence to Life. He was welcomed back into general population as a conquering hero. I saw these people every day. I witnessed killers, rapists and child molesters as they tried to sue for autopsy pictures, crime scene pictures of their victims and child pornography pictures claiming that they had a right to any and all evidence used against them. What they really wanted was just to re-live their crimes and have visual aids to assist in their sexual self-gratification. I saw how the really acted when they were not in court being touted by the lawyers as someone who was really a likeable person and just misunderstood. I first found my signature quote when I was working their and found it to be very appropriate. Death penalty cases are so long and costly because of abuse of the appeal system. Defense attorneys may have numerous reasons to appeal but they submit them one at a time trying to delay justice. The death penalty needs to stay. The appeal process needs to be streamilned.![]()
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE
With todays evidence techniques it's very hard to send an innocent man to death row. I've always been a proponent of the death sentence when hard evidence is available, DNA, finger prints, photos, etc. I don't believe someone should be given the death sentence solely on eyewitness testimony or circumstantial evidence.