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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Only legal if the dog can sniff without detaining you beyond the time to give you the ticket for the traffic stop. It would be illegal to detain you after the time required to give you a ticket, in order to wait for the dog to arrive, without reasonable and articulable suspicion that you were carrying drugs/explosives.
    Good to know. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletTrainingLtd View Post
    While any and all laws are open to interpretation of the person who is reading it, I offer this:
    ORC 2923.126 Duties the licensee shall not knowingly disregard or fail to comply with lawful orders of a law enforcement officer given while the licensee is stopped or knowingly fail to keep the licensee’s hands in plain sight after any law enforcement officer begins approaching the licensee while stopped and before the officer leaves, unless directed otherwise by a law enforcement officer; and the licensee shall not knowingly remove, attempt to remove, grasp, or hold the loaded handgun or knowingly have contact with the loaded handgun by touching it with the licensee’s hands or fingers, in any manner in violation of division (B) of section 2923.12 of the Revised Code, after any law enforcement officer begins approaching the licensee while stopped and before the officer leaves.

    If the officer asks for it..... Having said that, I would not want to handle someone else's handgun on a traffic stop unless I just did not feel safe with that person or situation.
    The question is... What constitutes a "lawful order"?.....I am looking for the answer, and cant seem to find it, although there have been some good posts in this thread, none have answered it completely...

    I guess I could ask it this way: Is it a "Lawful Order" for an officer to order you to give him your weapon when the reason for the interaction btwn myself and the officer had nothing to do with the firearm in the first place? (and you have shown zero "dangerous" signs?) Is there a specific "law" that says this?
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    I am guessing they are casting a pretty broad net with "lawful order." As in, you are required to do anything the officer tells you, so long as it is not inherently illegal or immoral.
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