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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Well... the ignorant part of both statements in question, I would say, would be "many". A more realistic statement would be "A small minority or percentage of..."

    I also find it humorous how, if someone makes exactly the same statements about police officers, there would be a number of posters who would come back with "you are just being anti-cop, as usual."
    Quantifying "many" really depends on what your definition of "is" is. I've made it clear that I hope to never need to draw my gun and I would hold fire in scenarios where many others would not so I obviously don't fall into the category that you mentioned. Wouldn't you agree?
    You have mentioned that you enjoy open carry gatherings in public places. Can you elaborate on the purpose of these gatherings and why you enjoy them?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_S View Post
    Quantifying "many" really depends on what your definition of "is" is. I've made it clear that I hope to never need to draw my gun and I would hold fire in scenarios where many others would not so I obviously don't fall into the category that you mentioned. Wouldn't you agree?
    You have mentioned that you enjoy open carry gatherings in public places. Can you elaborate on the purpose of these gatherings and why you enjoy them?
    Yes, I agree. The purpose of the meet and greet gatherings is to meet with people with similar beliefs as myself, talk about whatever comes up, enjoy good food and company. No different than if parents of soccer kids would get together, church groups, computer clubs, chess clubs, car clubs. Sometimes a trip to a gun range will be planned before or after the meet and greet just like a ball game or church service might be for those groups.

    Sometimes the events might be scheduled in support of a fellow member who has had an incident. For example, following my illegal eviction from a restaurant by a police officer for open carrying, the owner of the restaurant called me and apologized (the management of the restaurant had no part of the police action at all, and it was conducted without their knowledge) and stated that I, my friends and family, and firearms were more than welcome to come back. So, about 12 of us carrying guns, with our families, showed up the following weekend for a luncheon. The restaurant got our business, the serving staff got our generous tips, a good time was had by a bunch of people, and the local police were invited on a social basis only, but they chose not to come. Everybody gained something positive from the get together.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flanmedic51 View Post
    Again, you turn it into a rights thing when it only gives the LEO more ability to enforce laws and provide public safety.
    I am not anti-cop, I am pro-Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dusted View Post
    mr. maybejim, it sounds to me like you're projecting. my firearm is to protect myself and the ones i love, not to kill the first BG that poses a threat. therefore, my weapon remains concealed, so that i'm not singled out as this unfortunate fellow obviously was. that was my point, nothing more. if my life is in danger, i would rather have the element of surprise in my favor. is that a little more clear sir? not everyone who advocates "element of surprise" is a bloodthirsty psychopath, which it seems to me you're insinuating.
    To each his own. I don't carry openly because most of the time I can't (I live mostly these days in Kalifornia) so I carry concealed. But all the attacks on those who do open carry seems a bit much. I have to wonder at the dissing of our brothers who choose to open carry. The arguments for mode of carry are reasonable on both sides. I am yet to see any evidence of BG's singling out someone because he is open carrying. Other people doing it need to get over themselves and grow up but the evidence doesn't seem to be that that is much happening either. The few people that are alarmed by law abiding citizens open carrying need to be acclimatized to it. That only will happen when more people open carry. That can only help us ease out of the idiot unconstitutional laws that we are under these days.
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    I support open carry and concealed carry which is why I will do both soon enough. Ill have my Glock on my belt, and my soon to be purchased Springfield XD(M) in my waistband. If a business owner or cop doesnt like my open gun, Ill put it away and keep carrying my XD. After all, if you need to carry one gun, you may as well carry 2.
    P.S. Im not joking here.


    Oh and the more specific relevance to this thread: If somebody stronger than me manages to steal my open carry gun from me, they will probably get a nice surprise when I pull out the XD ;)
    Why do I carry a gun? Because a cop is too heavy.

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    [QUOTE=NavyLCDR;248551]Yes, I agree. The purpose of the meet and greet gatherings is to meet with people with similar beliefs as myself, talk about whatever comes up, enjoy good food and company. No different than if parents of soccer kids would get together, church groups, computer clubs, chess clubs, car clubs. Sometimes a trip to a gun range will be planned before or after the meet and greet just like a ball game or church service might be for those groups.

    Sometimes the events might be scheduled in support of a fellow member who has had an incident. For example, following my illegal eviction from a restaurant by a police officer for open carrying, the owner of the restaurant called me and apologized (the management of the restaurant had no part of the police action at all, and it was conducted without their knowledge) and stated that I, my friends and family, and firearms were more than welcome to come back. So, about 12 of us carrying guns, with our families, showed up the following weekend for a luncheon. The restaurant got our business, the serving staff got our generous tips, a good time was had by a bunch of people, and the local police were invited on a social basis only, but they chose not to come. Everybody gained something positive from the get together.[/QUOTE

    Really? So it's not to cause a spectacle in public with a group of people with guns and then ask people if the sight of your gun scares them and offer a tissue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_S View Post
    Really? So it's not to cause a spectacle in public with a group of people with guns and then ask people if the sight of your gun scares them and offer a tissue?
    No. My signature line is directed as those "pro-gun", "pro-2A" people on this forum who can't seem to tolerate Americans who don't normally hide their guns away like they feel the need to. I'll be happy to send you a box of monogrammed tissues, Rich_S.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flanmedic51 View Post
    Again, you turn it into a rights thing when it only gives the LEO more ability to enforce laws and provide public safety.
    I am not anti-cop, I am pro-Constitution.

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    The open carry attention whores have more cases of OC preventing crime than leading to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xmanhockey7 View Post
    The open carry attention whores have more cases of OC preventing crime than leading to it.
    The problem is the open carry attention whores will never know exactly how many crimes they deter, because the criminals aren't coming up to them saying, "You are so lucky I saw that gun, otherwise, I would have jacked you up!"
    Quote Originally Posted by Flanmedic51 View Post
    Again, you turn it into a rights thing when it only gives the LEO more ability to enforce laws and provide public safety.
    I am not anti-cop, I am pro-Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    No. My signature line is directed as those "pro-gun", "pro-2A" people on this forum who can't seem to tolerate Americans who don't normally hide their guns away like they feel the need to. I'll be happy to send you a box of monogrammed tissues, Rich_S.
    ROFL- Yeah, OK....thanks for clearing that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dusted View Post
    unfortunately this is a lesson hard learned in why open carry is a bad idea 98% of the time. i believe that it should be an individual's choice, but in practice? it's just asking for trouble. while i'm proud of my right to carry a firearm, i'm a firm believer in the element of surprise, as long as i'm not the one being surprised. that being said, rest in peace, mr. tyler :(
    While reading the posts, I was wondering when the first ones of the same post as above will come...smile NavyLCDR, you are on candid camera!!! LOL
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