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Man arrested for Open Carry in Arbys - Louisville Ky

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    Default Man arrested for Open Carry in Arbys - Louisville Ky

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    "Helms was arrested and charged with menacing and disorderly conduct." Not for open carry.
    "Unconcealed firearms are not allowed inside the restaurant, according to an employee of the Arby's." An Arby's employee is such a good source of info. Open carry is 100% legal in KY, that officer need to be schooled, and his dept should get sued by the guy. His Aunt, and mother I think made it worse. Also if the guy did not have a concealed permit, the cop was breaking the law telling him to cover up. The customers were not alarmed till the cop went into stupid mode.

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    Based on the version of incident presented in the story, in my humble opinion, the lawfully armed citizen in question failed to exercise good judgment when circumstances escalated. Go eat somewhere else.
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    I love reading the comments at the bottom of the linked story. Thanks for posting Sir D!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 24ever View Post
    Based on the version of incident presented in the story, in my humble opinion, it does not appear the lawfully armed citizen in question exercised good judgment under the specific circumstances.
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    First thing I said to the wife is that the kid has good grounds for a lawsuit however we weren't there and don't know all the details; just what the media is divulging. I'm sure Auntie M and company didn't help matters.

    I would have hit the record button as soon as he said the first word to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Diealotz View Post
    I would have hit the record button as soon as he said the first word to me.
    I had the same thought. Especially after seeing this encouraging open carry incident fully documented on tape. I'm sure there is a thread on this video already, but I was reminded of it when I read this story. Of course, not everyone is that well versed in their local law, but it made me realize how unprepared I am if I needed to offer a calm, well presented legal defense of my rights with actual references.


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    My step dad is a retired Louisville city cop, I just sent my mom and email to get his take.

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    The article states the disturbance (altercation between legal carrier, his Aunt, his mom, and the police officer) caused alarm. Not his open carry. So if the article is correct, had the officer not put his nose where it doesn't belong, everything would have been fine. He does not have the authority to overide the law. And the officer was the one who caused the disturbance.

    It also states that an employee said it was not legal to carry in the restraurant. Don't know about KY's laws, but in my state that would only be true if there was proper signs posted that were ignored, or alcohol was served. So unless the workers said he was not allowed to carry in, then the officer overstepped his authority demanding he cover it up.

    The only people who showed poor judgement were the police officer and possibly the carrier's aunt and mom.
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    Personally, I don't want to draw attention to myself. I don't walk into a public eating establishment shirtless or shoe-less or strutting like the Lone Ranger. I don't want the public to know how much money I have in my wallet or what I wear on my hip.

    I'm over joyed OC is legal in some states but, in light of the many tragedies and shooting sprees being reported by the liberal media currently, I'm guessing OC in public at the moment is not such a bright idea?
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    The Officer is the one who created the disturbance and should be charged.


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    Here in MS, the establishment has to have signs posted, then even those of us with enhanced carry permits can't carry if we choose to patronize their business.

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