Ruger LCP 380

[uphill]

I,ve been trying to decide on a Ruger LCP or P3AT and had just decided on Ruger when I saw this. This is a real concern as I feel if any double action shouldn't be carried with one in the pipe it's worthless as CCW IMO. I've searched and so far have found no recall or even safety bulletin on the LCP. Ruger's own site lists recalls for 7 models but not the LCP. The page from the owners manual shown looks like it might be a CYA saying ANY firearm can go off if dropped. I'm still looking for actual drop test results to see if it is any more dangerous than any other pistol.
All I've found so far is an article saying all US made pistols pass the drop test. Does anyone here know if it is being sold in California? It MUST pass the drop test to be sold there.

[Stiofan]

Originally Posted by uphill

I,ve been trying to decide on a Ruger LCP or P3AT and had just decided on Ruger when I saw this. This is a real concern as I feel if any double action shouldn't be carried with one in the pipe it's worthless as CCW IMO. I've searched and so far have found no recall or even safety bulletin on the LCP. Ruger's own site lists recalls for 7 models but not the LCP. The page from the owners manual shown looks like it might be a CYA saying ANY firearm can go off if dropped. I'm still looking for actual drop test results to see if it is any more dangerous than any other pistol.
All I've found so far is an article saying all US made pistols pass the drop test. Does anyone here know if it is being sold in California? It MUST pass the drop test to be sold there.

The recall is for the SR9, not the LCP.

From what I've been told, Ruger never submitted the LCP to California for the drop test, nor does it have the required magazine disconnect and external safety (neither does the Keltec). You can only buy one there from a private party, a FFL can't sell them in the state as they are not on the approved list.

I have one on order from a local shop for $249, I'm told it will be in about 3 weeks from now but I'm not holding my breath. The Keltec's fit and finish I'm not impressed with.

[uphill]

I know what you mean about the fit & finish. That's what turned me off on the P3AT. I've got a 30 year old surplus Makarov that looks better. I've talked to a lot of people about the P3AT and they either love'em or hate'em. Seems about 50-50 which doesn't impress me either. I'm told their customer service and lifetime warranty are top notch but also hear of repeated returns and a lot of polishing work to make one reliable. Still others tell of flawless perfection right out of the box. Could their QC be that inconsistent?
The LCP looks good and I like other Rugers.

[Stiofan]

Frankly I was in the market for a Seecamp LWS32, but you have to pay $150 over MSRP on an auction site or wait 5 months for the factory order. That's close to 6 bills to get one in a week or so.

I was looking at the P3AT's in my local gunshops, as no one has any Rugers in stock, and none are even ordering them, saying they can't get 'em. They had one Keltec at a store on consignment for $199 and I thought I'd ask about it, all the gun shops are recommending them (of course, that's all they have to sell right now) and the counter guy told me for an extra $50 he'd get me a Ruger when "their shipment comes in" at the end of the month. The price on a new Keltec was $10 higher, I figured I could wait till August to see if it pans out.

I'm sure the Keltec is reliable, but I like to keep my guns for life, I want something that starts out kind of nice looking.

[HK4U]

I can see myself getting one of the Rugers for a BUG one day as soon as it has been out a while and I know it is reliable/all the bugs out. I have a Beretta Tomcat now. It is an overall good gun but it can be picky in regard to the ammo I use.

[Stiofan]

Local gun shop called late this afternoon and said my Ruger is in. Funny thing was I was in the store about an hour before they called looking at some hunting/fishing waders and I didn't even think to ask them about the gun, fuguring it would still be at least another 2 weeks. Will head over there tomorrow. Hopefully it's also still at the good price I was quoted before.

[DJ58]

make sure to give us an update.


Thanks DJ58

[MissPriss]

Cute little gun, i want one! Too bad there almost impossible to get in my area...
:(

[Landor]

I have had mine for two weeks now. The trigger is longer then I am use to but not bad. The gun is quality all the way. I have 200 rounds through it so far. It was a good investment for me. I carry it daily.

[Stiofan]

Sure enough, $249. I'll give a thumbs up to my local dealer, Black Sheep Sporting Goods. They even threw in a box of CCI ball (non-brass case, oh well :-) )! I've heard some have problems with it in this gun, if I do I'll run it through my Walther to get rid of it. I've got some SilverTip HP, but I was reading at another site that Remington Golden Saber is the one to beat now in .380, even better than Corbon. I'll have to pick up a box to see if it fires well.

Anyone have a particular JHP that seems to feed well? Probably take me better part of a week till I can get to the range.