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    GOLD FRINGED FLAG

    The flags displayed in State courts and courts of the United States have gold or yellow fringes. That is your WARNING that you are entering into a foreign enclave, the same as if you are stepping into a foreign embassy and you will be under the jurisdiction of that flag. The flag with the gold or yellow fringe has no constitution, no laws, and no rules of court, and is not recognized by any nation on the earth, and is foreign to you and the United States of America. more information

    MILITARY FLAG WITH THE GOLD FRINGE

    Martial Law Flag "Pursuant to 4 U.S.C. chapter 1, 1, 2, & 3; Executive Order 10834, August 21, 1959; 24 F.R.6865; a military flag is a flag that resembles the regular flag of the United States, except that it has a YELLOW FRINGE border on three sides. The President of the United States designates this deviation from the regular flag, by executive order, and in his capacity as Commander-in-Chief of the military. The placing of a fringe on the national flag, the dimensions of the flag and the arrangement of the stars in the union are matters of detail not controlled by statute, but are within the discretion of the President as Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy." 34 Ops. Atty. Gen. 83.

    President, Dwight David Eisenhower, by Executive Order No.10834, signed on August 21, 1959 and printed in the Federal Register at 24 F.R. 6865, pursuant to law, stated that: "A military flag is a flag that resembles the regular flag of the United States, except that it has a yellow fringe border on three sides."

    THE LAW OF THE FLAG

    The Law of the Flag, an International Law, which is recognized by every nation of the planet, is defined as:

    "... a rule to the effect that a vessel is a part of the territory of the nation whose flag she flies. The term is used to designate the RIGHTS under which a ship owner, who sends his vessel into a foreign port, gives notice by his flag to all who enter into contracts with the ship master that he intends the Law of that Flag to regulate those contracts, and that they must either submit to its operation or not contract with him or his agent at all." Ref.: Ruhstrat v. People, 57 N.E. 41

    By the doctrine of "four cornering" the flag establishes the law of the country that it represents. For example, the embassies of foreign countries, in Washington D.C., are "four cornered" by walls or fencing, creating an "enclave." Within the boundaries of the "enclave" of the foreign embassy, the flag of that foreign country establishes the jurisdiction and law of that foreign country, which will be enforced by the Law of the Flag and international treaty. If you enter an embassy, you will be subject to the laws of that country, just as if you board a ship flying a foreign flag, you will be subject to the laws of that flag, enforceable by the "master of the ship," (Captain), by the law of the flag.

    When you enter a courtroom displaying a gold or yellow fringed flag, you have just entered into a foreign country, and you better have your passport with you, because you may not be coming back to the land of the free for a long time. The judge sitting under a gold or yellow fringe flag becomes the "captain" or "master" of that ship or enclave and he has absolute power to make the rules as he goes. The gold or yellow fringe flag is your warning that you are leaving your Constitutionally secured RIGHTS on the floor outside the door to that courtroom.

    This is exactly why so many judges are appointed, and not elected by the people. The Federal judges are appointed by the President, the national military commander in chief. The State judges are appointed by the Governors, the state military commanders. The judges are appointed because the courts are military courts and civilians do not "elect" military officers.

    Under martial law, you are presumed guilty until proven innocent.

    The gold-fringed flag only stands inside military courts that sit in summary court martial proceedings against civilians and such courts are governed in part by local rules, but more especially by "The Manual of Courts Martial", U.S., 1994 Ed., at Art. 99, (c)(1)(b), pg. IV-34, PIN 030567-0000, U.S. Government Printing Office, Wash. D.C. The details of the crimes that civilians can commit, that are classed as 'Acts of War,' cover 125 pages in the Manual of Courts Martial.

    Under Article IV, section 3, of the Constitution for the united States of America, no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State. So -- Why have the judges of the State and Federal courts been allowed to erect foreign enclaves within our public courthouses under a foreign flag with the yellow fringe upon the soil of your state?

    We just thought you would like to know, so that the next time you see this yellow fringed flag you will know what you are looking at and what it really means. If you are in Spain and you see the National Flag of Spain, you would know that you are under the jurisdiction of Spain; and their laws govern you at this time. You are officially NOTICED when you see their flag. This is an admiralty law that says that all who see this flag understand they are governed by the laws of the country that this flag represents. You SHOULD understand that the gold or yellow fringed flag signifies the same thing. It is a notice to you that you are under the rules and regulations of the military force that is flying that flag.

    Are you familiar with martial law?

    Does your attorney understand what this flag means?

    "It is an elementary rule of pleading, that a plea to the jurisdiction is a tacit (silent) admission that the court has a right to judge the case and is a waiver to all exception to the jurisdiction."(Girty v. Logan, 6 Bush KY, 8)

    What Does The Gold-Fringed Flag Signify?

    It is commonplace to see a gold-fringed United States flag standing in the
    present-day courtrooms. Is the gold fringe there for decoration only, or
    does it signify a certain jurisdiction? Make no mistake about it -- the
    American People have been put on notice that the normal constitutional
    functions of government have been suspended and that their Land has been placed under martial law. The information below is not by any means exhaustive, but will at least point the reader in the right direction to do additional research on his own.

    Pursuant to the "Law of the Flag," a military flag does result in
    jurisdictional implications when flown
    (Ruhstrat v. People, 57 N.E. 41, 45, 185 Ill. 133, 49 LRA 181, 76 Am).

    Under the powers designated by these statutes, the President may: seize
    property, organize and control the means of production, seize commodities,assign military forces abroad, institute martial law, seize and control all transportation and communications, regulate the operation of private enterprise, restrict travel, and, in a plethora of particular ways,
    control the lives of all American citizens.... (United
    States Senate Report 93-549, 19 November 1973).
    GO HERE FOR DETAILED INFORMATION:What Does the Gold-Fringed Flag Signify?
    What Does the Gold-Fringed Flag Signify?
    THE FLAG, AS WITH ALL THINGS IN LAW, IS HIGHLY DEFINED.
    Treatise - by Velma Gay
    On The Title 4 U.S.C. 1,
    American Flag of Peace of the united States of America
    THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO PROVISIONS IN THE LAW FOR ADDING A FOURTH COLOR (YELLOW FRINGE) TO THE TITLE 4 U.S.C. 1,2 FLAG.
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    THE LAW OF THE FLAG
    The Law of the Flag, an International Law, which is recognized by every nation of the planet, is defined as:

    " .. a rule to the effect that a vessel is a part of the territory of the nation whose flag she flies. The term is used to designate the RIGHTS under which a ship owner, who sends his vessel into a foreign port, gives notice by his flag to all who enter into contracts with the ship master that he intends the Law of that Flag to regulate those contracts, and that they must either submit to its operation or not contract with him or his agent at all." Ref.: Ruhstrat v. People, 57 N.E. 41
    GO HERE FOR MORE DETAILS:Emergency Powers Statutes (Senate Report 93-549)

    FRINGE ON THE FLAG?

    For many years rumors have been spread through the United States concerning the origin and meaning of the gold fringe which frequently decorates the Stars and Stripes. It has been claimed that such fringe is without proper authorization; that it is symbolic of the end of the gold standard as the basis for United States currency; or that it indicates the substitution of admiralty courts and martial law for common law courts and procedures, as part of a conspiracy supposedly instigated by Communists, Jews, Masons, liberals, feminists, homosexuals, or other "un-American" groups. Many of these claims are spread by radio talk programs, cassette tapes, lectures and other non-written form. The following can be stated with certainty:

    CLICK HERE FOR THE REST OF THE STORY: Email: vex@midcoast.com
    N.E.J.V.-FRINGE ON THE FLAG?

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    The legal notices here displayed concern property seized by Federal agents as booty under Admiralty law. Notice is required so that anyone who might have an interest in the property seized has opportunity to seek to protect his interest.

    One would not be wise to attempt this, though. Most likely, any excuse will be used to allege that the party claiming interest in the property was a party to the alleged offense that resulted in the original seizure.

    The allegation is enough to justify the taking of property - under Admiralty law guilt is presumed. The claimant might well lose other property not yet in the hands of these land going pirates, even though no actual conviction of any offense is ever entered. Check your local paper's legal notices. Look into the cases cited and see if any conviction occurs - or if any charges were even filed - against the persons whose property was seized.

    Colorado is a long ways from the ocean. Admiralty law is farther still from the common law recognized under Federal and State constitutions.
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    Thanks for posting this. I knew a little about this but this is a lot more info than I new. I went to a meeting that Col. Bo Gritz was at a few years back and it was held in a school building. The school had a gold fringe flag in the auditorium. Col Gritz took it down while there and raised his on constitutionally correct flag.
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    In my classroom, as teacher, if there is no flag, I will provide my own. Similarly, if there is a gold fringed flag there, I will remove it and again, provide my own. My own flag will not have a fringe.

    Regardless, I will not attempt to coerce my students into swearing a Pledge of Allegiance.
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    I really don't know anything about the gold fringe of the flag and what it may or may not mean. However, I do feel the need to point out something that makes me skeptical. 4 U.S.C. chapter 1, 1, 2, & 3; Executive Order 10834, August 21, 1959; 24 F.R.6865 is an executive order that pertains to the admission of Hawaii into the Union and says nothing about gold or yellow Fringe. The executive order is relevant because it marks the last time our Flag was modified, when Hawaii became our 50th state.
    If you review the entire Title 4 Chapter 1 law, I don't think you're going to find any reference to gold or yellow fringe. I looked it over and I couldn't find anything. I've heard this tale about the yellow and gold fringe for years, but I have never seen any reputable source that confirms it. I'm not trying to get anyone upset here, and I am not trying to start an argument.
    If you can find a reputable source that mentions the gold or yellow fringe and attaches a meaning to it, please let me know. I would certainly be interested.

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    Actually, the gold fringed American flag dates only to 1925, the year of the Scopes Trial. The judge named to preside in that trial, John J. Raulston, was a big fan of William Jennings Bryan, who appeared as counsel for the prosecution. Judge Raulston had a local tailor shop append gold fringe to the flag that had appeared in the Dayton, TN courthouse for years and directed that the now-fringed flag appear prominently in that courthouse during Scopes' trial, probably as a silent tribute to Bryan, who wrote and delivered the celebrated "Cross of Gold" speech at his nomination for President at the Democratic Convention of 1896.

    The fringed flag appeared in many of the photos, taken at the trial, that appeared in newspapers around the world. Not long afterwards, gold fringed flags began appearing in public celebrations, first in the South and, later, throughout the U.S. It is not clear when gold fringed flags first replaced unfringed flags in some U.S. public buildings (including courthouses). It may be that this was due chiefly to supply and demand (that is, that flag manufacturers, anticipating more demand for fringed flags than for unfringed ones, produced more of the latter).

    In the years following Roosevelt's "New Deal", an increasing number of Americans began to notice that, while not all courthouses in the U.S contain fringed flags, those that do are always located in counties whose names do not begin with the letters "X" or "Z" or cities the actual population of which is invariably divisible by a prime number. Moreover, these flags are always either attached to a pole which is always referred to as the "staff" or hung flat, with the blue field of stars on the left side.

    Public recognition of these strange but undeniable facts led, in the years following WWII, to widespread suspicion of their implications for American freedoms. Those who openly questioned the purpose and significance of the new flags, and who sometimes publicly protested against them, became the subjects of investigations by the FBI, IRS, ATFE, or other government agencies. In the 1950s, hundreds were called before the House Unamerican Activities Committee and some were jailed (often, on unspecified charges).

    In recent years, however, official Federal government reaction has been more restrained, and these protestors are now generally ignored, or dismissed as "fringe elements".

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    Quote Originally Posted by CathyInBlue View Post
    In my classroom, as teacher

    Regardless, I will not attempt to coerce my students into swearing a Pledge of Allegiance.
    How the hell do you see this as a good thing? Where do your allegiances lie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by twogunwilly View Post
    How the hell do you see this as a good thing? Where do your allegiances lie?
    Seems obvious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaxMentis View Post
    Seems obvious...

    With freedom.
    I'm all about getting the fringed flag gone. I've always thought of it as a para-military flag and not the one I and millions other pledged to every morning of every school day. We even had "one nation under god"
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