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    Action would clear the way for semi-auto bans, guns show bans, gun licensing, and ammunition bans

    Make no mistake about it: Procedure is power.

    The reason we are not stuck with bans on semi-autos, gun shows and ammunition is because the U.S. Senate is structured so that whatever party is in the minority still retains procedural power to protect the rights of the citizenry against the "tyranny of the majority."

    But on January 5, 2011, at the beginning of the new Congress, Senate Democrats are hatching a plan to decimate long-standing Senate rules in order to remove those protections.

    The linchpin of the plan would be a ruling by Senate President Joe Biden that the Senate is not a "continuing body" and therefore has NO rules -- other than whatever 53 Democrats and Independents might unilaterally adopt.

    At the core of their efforts will be an attempt to abolish the "hold letter" -- at least as it currently exists. Pro-gun senators have used "hold letters" in the past to kill proposed gun show bans, semi-auto bans, ammunition bans, gun licensing requirements, registration lists -- any number of anti-freedom initiatives.

    Basically, a hold letter allows a single Senator to slow down movement on unconstitutional legislation, so that it can't be rammed through before the American people can voice their concerns.

    Gun banners may also try to reduce the number of senators required to shut off filibusters of anti-gun measures. And they will do this in the expectation that the Second Amendment community has been preoccupied during the holidays and, thus, won't mobilize in time to stop the plan.

    Again, procedure is power. The rules that currently exist in the Senate have been designed to slow down unconstitutional legislation -- and this is in keeping with our concept of checks and balances. Thus, not all rules changes are automatically bad, since anything that slows down the galloping herd of gun control is a good thing and should be supported.

    To this end, Senator Jim DeMint may offer an amendment to the rules that would prohibit anti-gun legislation from being passed in the Senate, unless two-thirds of all senators vote to consider it. Now that's the kind of rules change that we can support!

    ACTION: Contact your two senators, and tell them the following:

    First, resist efforts by the anti-gun Left to abolish or amend the Senate rules on January 5 in order to make it more difficult to filibuster anti-gun measures.

    Second, oppose any attempt to abolish "hold letters," which have been used by pro-gun senators to kill a number of anti-freedom initiatives.

    Third, support the amendment to the Senate rules by Senator Jim DeMint that would prohibit anti-gun legislation from being passed in the Senate, unless two-thirds of all senators vote to consider it.

    There are two different pre-written letters for this alert -- one for Republicans and one for Democrats.

    If you go to GOA's Legislative Action Center to contact your Senators, the correct pre-written letter will AUTOMATICALLY be chosen. If you choose to contact your Senators without going through the GOA website, then please make sure you choose the correct letter below for the correct Senator.


    ----- Pre-written letter to Republican Senators -----

    Dear Senator:

    The reason we are not stuck with bans on semi-autos, gun shows and ammunition is because the U.S. Senate is structured so that whatever party is in the minority still retains procedural power to protect the rights of the citizenry against the "tyranny of the majority."

    But on January 5, 2011, at the beginning of the new Congress, the Senate Democratic leadership is hatching a plan to decimate the Senate rules.

    The linchpin of the plan would be a ruling by Senate President Joe Biden that the Senate is not a "continuing body" and therefore has NO rules -- other than whatever 53 Democrats and Independents might unilaterally adopt.

    At the core of these efforts will be an attempt to abolish the "hold letter" -- at least as it currently exists. Pro-gun senators have used hold letters in the past to kill proposed gun show bans, semi-auto bans, ammunition bans, gun licensing requirements, registration lists -- any number of anti-freedom initiatives.

    Gun banners may also try to reduce the number of senators required to shut off filibusters of anti-gun measures. And they will do this in the expectation that the Second Amendment community has been preoccupied during the holidays and, thus, won't mobilize in time to stop the plan.

    I would ask you for the following:

    First, resist efforts by the anti-gun Left to abolish or amend the Senate rules on January 5 in order to make it more difficult to filibuster anti-gun measures.

    Second, oppose any attempt to abolish "hold letters," which have been used by pro-gun senators to kill a number of anti-freedom initiatives.

    Third, support the amendment to the Senate rules by Senator Jim DeMint that would prohibit anti-gun legislation from being passed in the Senate, unless two-thirds of all senators vote to consider it.

    Sincerely,


    ----- Pre-written letter to Democrat Senators -----

    Dear Senator:

    On January 5, 2011, at the beginning of the new Congress, there are some in the Senate leadership who are hatching a plan to decimate the Senate rules.

    The linchpin of the plan would be a ruling by Senate President Joe Biden that the Senate is not a "continuing body" and therefore has NO rules -- other than whatever 53 Democrats and Independents might unilaterally adopt.

    At the core of these efforts will be an attempt to abolish the "hold letter" -- at least as it currently exists. And, they may also try to reduce the number of senators required to shut off filibusters.

    Ironically, these are the same senators who were, a half-decade ago, screaming at the prospects of Republicans and Vice President **** Cheney changing the rules in order to expedite judicial nominations.

    Also ironic is the fact that the same Democrats who are so enthusiastic about squashing the rights of the minority might well be in the minority in the Senate after the next election.

    I would ask you to resist efforts to abolish or amend any Senate rules that would make it more difficult to filibuster or place holds on legislation. These valuable tools have a history of protecting the rights of all Americans.

    Sincerely,

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    Tipicle liberal tactic. Can't get their way if we follow the law so find a back door and sneak it through.
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    So how did the vote end?

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    My 2 Senators are Chucky Schemer and his lap dog Gillitraitor I don't think they'll listen.
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    Rule change? Why? The last issue the democrats want to address is the gun ownership control controversy. Even if such legislation gets through the senate upon a rule change, the house will not agree to make the proposed legislation law. Furthermore, there are more senate democrats up for reelection next november that republicans. If the failed hi-cap magazines laws of the past get re-introduced by the democratic senate, they will no doubt lose control of that particular legislative body next November and the president will have even a lesser chance of getting re-elected.

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    Well, here in NC our Senators will split their votes 50-50, Sen. Burr - Nay, Sen. Hagan - Yay. Hagan has voted Partisan on every vote since taking office! I think before all the Anti-Gunners jump all over this opportunity, they need to ask the Law Enforcement in Tucson and Pima County just why they didn't have any officers providing security for Congresswoman Gillfords, and why one their F&G Officers who stopped this Nutcase for running a red light just an hour before the shooting didn't search his vehicle. There are a lot of questions that remain unanswered, and will probably be swept under the rug...
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    My senators are Mitch Mcconnell and Rand Paul, I don't even have to write them about this, I already know how they will vote.

    A local representative from Louisville just recently found out that open carried firearms were allowed in our capital building and she proposed a bill to end it. It will never happen.

    The governor himself said he saw no reason to change it because of what happened in Arizona, he said they have to deal with their own problems.
    One must be wary of the mentality creating the problem or the law creating the crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Hamberger View Post
    Well, here in NC our Senators will split their votes 50-50, Sen. Burr - Nay, Sen. Hagan - Yay. Hagan has voted Partisan on every vote since taking office! I think before all the Anti-Gunners jump all over this opportunity, they need to ask the Law Enforcement in Tucson and Pima County just why they didn't have any officers providing security for Congresswoman Gillfords, and why one their F&G Officers who stopped this Nutcase for running a red light just an hour before the shooting didn't search his vehicle. There are a lot of questions that remain unanswered, and will probably be swept under the rug...
    While I agree that a senator and federal judge should have had some sort of security, running a red light is not an arrestable offense and there would have been no other reason to violate the gunman's 4A.
    One must be wary of the mentality creating the problem or the law creating the crime.

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