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    My wife and I are leaving a church because they don't even pray for our country on a regular basis. With the 1st and 2nd amendments being eroded fast. We are now trying to wake churches up to rally against government oppression. It will take strong men (and women) everywhere to turn this country back to God and save the Republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bswartz15 View Post
    My wife and I are leaving a church because they don't even pray for our country on a regular basis. With the 1st and 2nd amendments being eroded fast. We are now trying to wake churches up to rally against government oppression. It will take strong men (and women) everywhere to turn this country back to God and save the Republic.
    Man....I know that the decision to leave a church is a hard one.

    A huge problem is that not only has the country turned away from God, so has much of the American Church turned away from the Gospel and from God. Often mistaking socialism for what Jesus Christ did. Jesus gives freedom to pursue happiness, not happiness itself. Much of the Church has mistaken acceptance for tolerance, mistaking "like" for "love".

    I think that mostly the Church leadership (both organized and individual churches) sees a lot of $$$ out there available if they accept what should merely be tolerated, by preachers not stepping on any toes. Sin all you want as long as you believe....and tithe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fstroupe View Post
    Excellent posts down the thread.

    But yes, this has been going on for quite some time as Blues said. Take for example, the man voted for decades as the "most trusted man in America", Walter Cronkite. After he retired, he admitted that he was very much a liberal. So we can consider the liberal bias in the media starting back long before even when I realized it, in the 1984 election. How can that be? Quite simply, the bias is not only what is said, it also what is not said, or not reported on at all.

    Think of the men who decided what news Americans received in the past 50 or so years, considering the majority of Americans received their national news from the evening newscasts.

    NBC: Chet Huntley, David Brinkley, John Chancellor, Tom Brokaw, Roger Mudd, Brian Williams
    CBS: Walter Cronkite, Dan Rather, Connie Chung, Bob Shieffer, Katie Couric, Scott Pelley
    ABC: Peter Jennings, Bob Young, Frank Reynolds, Howard K Smith, Harry Reasoner, Barbara Walters, Charles Gibson, Dianne Sawyer (and a number of others who were only there for a few months or less)

    So, for my lifetime, the majority of the news seen by Americans has been controlled by 20 or so people. Since most people favor one network news over another, that could be as few as five people. Over 50 years! And how many of those people ended up being fairly hardcore liberals? Nearly all, and we just don't know about the rest.

    The network news outlets enjoyed absolutely no real competition other than their two competitors until the early 80s, when CNN came along, and they were no real competition. And though they deny it, they claim not to worry about any of the "alternative media" (Fox News, AM radio, and internet).

    So in 2008, they pretty much just stopped hiding their bias. Not only the commentators, but the anchors and reporters too. Today, if you watch, what is found in MediaMatters, RightOn, or The Huffington Post today, will be on AP or Reuters tomorrow, and the network news the next day. So half the time they don't even investigate, they just regurgitate the hate-filled drivel generated by the left-wing hate machine.
    I must agree also that there have been some excellent posts in this thread. And I pretty much agree with all that has been said, but my concern of the above quoted post leaves me with a question. Of the News anchors mentioned above how many of them had the juice (Power) to express their own agenda if the media moguls above them, Like Rupert Murdoch et al had a differing opinion? I'm not saying that you are wrong fstroupe at all, I just don't think a lot of the Anchors mentioned had enough juice to run the show for a whole network. I'm sure a few DID like Walter but I'd like to hear what some of you others think about this because I believe there is a smaller list of the people who are trying to RULE the world. And I do mean the whole world too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswartz15 View Post
    It will take strong men (and women) everywhere to turn this country back to God and save the Republic.
    Brother you said a mouthful.
    Most people today have no idea what a Republic is and think we live in a Democracy, so what is there to save.
    They think a President has magical kingly power.
    They scoff at the thought of going to church and belittle those that do.
    Blame anymore is irrelevant.
    We have allowed a certain ideology to remove the creator (GOD) from our culture. This group has certainly spent a lot of effort to eliminate something they say does not exist. Therefore, with him out of the way. what freaking good is an oath. We then have no more unalienable rights and once again any and all rights are once again endowed by the ruling class and their whims.
    And. Just like that 'POOF' it is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SR40c View Post
    Agree with all of you... What amazes me is the staggering number of people in this country that are totally oblivious to the fact that there is a problem, let alone as to how far that problem has progressed.
    1% of the people make things happen, 9% of the people watch things happen, and 90% of the people ask, what happened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by S&W645 View Post
    We may be on the cusp of something but what, we won't know until it happens. We already know that this admin will run a false flag operation. ( Fast and Furious ) What will be their next? I'd say we will find out about 2 weeks before the November elections.
    I am not being a bearer of hope and change, but I received this one below from a like-minded person...
    “We are Preparing for Massive Civil War,” Says DHS Informant | Beacon Equity: Penny Stocks, Stock Alerts

    Now I will go and scare myself even more...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare45 View Post
    Near half the folks in this country are the problem, Travon's name was trademarked by his parents. With that said, the golden rule "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" still works wonders.
    Things have changed in America, the new modern version of the Golden Rule is, "Do unto others as they would do unto you, but do it first".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    Things have changed in America, the new modern version of the Golden Rule is, "Do unto others as they would do unto you, but do it first".
    I agree. It seem that the difference between right and wrong these days is whether or not one get's caught.

    It is sad that most people only stop their bad behavior after terrible things have happened, and sometimes even that is not enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLeeHarley View Post
    I must agree also that there have been some excellent posts in this thread. And I pretty much agree with all that has been said, but my concern of the above quoted post leaves me with a question. Of the News anchors mentioned above how many of them had the juice (Power) to express their own agenda if the media moguls above them, Like Rupert Murdoch et al had a differing opinion?
    Most, but not all, of the above had much power over what they reported and what they didn't. As the "media moguls" of CBS, ABC, and NBC were generally anti-Republican by 1960, there were few problems between management/anchors in having a liberal slant to the news.

    And be assured, I am not calling these people evil. Just saying that this small group of people pretty much controlled the news that American received from around 1960 to today on the networks.

    There is a huge number of books out there about this subject. I have read several in the past but to be honest it has been so long I couldn't tell you the name of any of them.

    This list of people as far as I know had no desire to "rule the world". But nearly all of them were known to be, or admitted to being, left-leaning.

    There has never been another Rubert Murdoch. But I feel that a few more men like him would make the world a somewhat better place. At least the playing field would be more even in the journalism world. Because right now it is ABC News, NBC News, CBS News, PBS, and CNN versus Fox News.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker's Mom View Post
    I am not being a bearer of hope and change, but I received this one below from a like-minded person...
    “We are Preparing for Massive Civil War,” Says DHS Informant | Beacon Equity: Penny Stocks, Stock Alerts

    Now I will go and scare myself even more...
    Mom: I have always found you to be a delightful lady whose comments I have always enjoyed reading but.......now you have done it! We had enough to worry about in the upcoming election without someone articulating the possibility of an economic crash which could possibly stop the election. The economic crash I can survive. My wife and I both can afford the loss of a few pounds and slim rations BUT, I can not stomach the thought of that Muslim continuing in office through default!!! We can always tend a garden, fish and eat rabbits and squirrels to get by. I was raised that way. Regardless of how bad everything else gets, the thought of Obama staying in office is so abhorrant to me that all else would be a cake walk. Might even kick some of the illegals out of the way and head south to Central America. I studied Spanish in Language School years ago so maybe I can brush up on it real fast! I sure hope the fellow that wrote that article is wrong. Thanks for the headache! LOL.

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