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Denver Area Student Has Rosary Beads Seized As Possible "Gang Symbol"

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    Good grief. On the one hand, we, the taxpayers of America, are paying for building and renovating islamic mosques in countries that want nothing more than to see us destroyed, while we are busy destroying ourselves right here at home with nonsense such as this story:

    Posted on: 10:58 am, September 14, 2012, by Tammy Vigil, updated on: 10:13pm, September 14, 2012

    LOVELAND, Colo. — A student is questioning whether his faith or his fashion is under fire at his high school in Loveland.

    Thompson Valley High School officials have confiscated his rosary beads twice since school started three weeks ago.

    And he says they never told him, or his family, why.


    “They tell me I can’t wear them,” says Manuel Vigil, showing us an identical rosary to the one seized by his school.

    The junior says he wears rosary beads to protect himself from harm.

    But his school district thinks the religious necklace will harm students.

    “That’s typically not what we want for a safe environment for school,” says Thompson Valley School District spokesperson Margaret Crespo.

    The district says they can be affiliated with gangs, and disrupt learning.

    “Are you in a gang? I ask Vigil. ‘No. I’m not in a gang,’ he says. You’re a good student? ‘I’m a good student,’” he says.

    The 16-year-old says he and his family are strong Catholics.

    “I use them for prayer. I feel safe when I have them on.”

    The district says it gave Vigil options before seizing the beads.

    “We’ve given you two opportunities to take it off or to put it inside your shirt. That’s not something you’re interested in doing. You’re not giving us an alternative than to remove it,” Crespo says Vigil was told.

    But Vigil says he only got a demand.

    “If he would have given me that option, I would have put it in my shirt,” he says.

    Vigil’s classmates agree putting a bad label on a good symbol is wrong.

    “If it’s for religious reasons he should be allowed to wear it. We have religious tolerance in this country,” says a freshman student Jack.

    “It’s a necklace. Girls wear necklaces all the time and they never get them taken away,” says junior Rachel.

    “They can say anything they want is disruptive. Just ‘cause they say it, doesn’t mean it’s true,” says freshman Adam. None of the students wanted to give their last names.

    Vigil says how ironic he’s getting in trouble for being a good and faithful person.

    “I could see if I was out doing gang activity, but I’ve never been in trouble with the law, never been in trouble at school,” says Vigil.

    The bigger problem the district says is Vigil’s rosary had 13 beads per section, instead of the traditional 10.

    That 13, they say, can be associated with the Sureno’s gang.

    But Vigil didn’t know that.

    Plus, on some religious websites we also found several rosaries featuring 13 beads.

    His other confiscated rosary, by the way, has 10 beads.

    He’s tried to pick them up from the office. But the school says they’ll only give them to a parent and his mom can’t make it during school hours because of work.

    I would say the bolded text above proves it has nothing to do with anything having to do with gangs. The Christian is being persecuted, plain and simple. That is to be expected Biblically-speaking, but constitutionally-speaking, the school district should be severely sanctioned and any official implementing, enforcing or supporting this ridiculous policy should be fired.

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    I, for the entirety of my son's journey through school, taught him to respect authority and the decisions made by the authority figure of his school. I taught him that even though he may not agree with the decisions, it is best to understand the decisions before reacting to the decisions so that his reaction is informed.

    But I think even I would punch the dumb SOB that tried to confiscate my Rosary square in the mouth, just because.

    This all out attack on Christianity and American freedom on the basis of "Gang related" fear is asinine!

    When do you think the American public will wake up and realize the Board of Education and the NEA are systematically destroying our youth and any hope we have of an intelligent, individually thinking future generation?
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    I think it's just a matter of time before a PEZ dispenser gets classified as some type of gang related item.

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    I'd like to see an administrator take away a symbol of faith from a student of a "different" religion...

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    Latin Kings use rosary beads as a symbol.

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    kids should wear what ever they want to wear be it rosary beads or a burqua or daisy dukes it shouldn't matter so long what is worn doesn't infringe of folks right to an education
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bighouse Doc View Post
    Latin Kings use rosary beads as a symbol.

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    So you're all for applying guilt by association to a kid who has no criminal history and hasn't been a problem child in school? You see no 1st Amendment problems with this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluesStringer View Post
    So you're all for applying guilt by association to a kid who has no criminal history and hasn't been a problem child in school? You see no 1st Amendment problems with this?
    No! I am merely adding some info.

    Few people here know what a "Latin King" is or what the difference between them of the BGD gang!

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    While the left says we have to tolerate their ideas, they show no tolerance of anything except their ideas. That isn't what the Bill of Rights says.
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    Is there really any reason this has to be blamed on anything except dumb asses?
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