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| In it's infinite wisdom our government plans on this magnificent humanitarian act: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States will pledge about $10 billion in aid for Afghanistan at a donors' conference this week, a U.S. official said on Tuesday -- less than the White House had wanted from Congress. (Less? Afghanistan population 2007: 31,889,923. That's $313.57 per person! The great Afghan dream comes true! A brand new AK-47 for every man, woman or child in the entire nation!!!!! Plus some spare change for good ammo and a few million grenades for a bulk purchase from maybe China who would love to fill that order!) Has anyone checked out that Afghanistan is the #1 provider to the global market of raw opium? :5: Or that it is the only export of any real worth from that nation. :Image5: Now that black tarry goop flows thru some ruthless criminal syndicates who cut it by 50% doubling their product tons, and still turning out heroin more potent than any other nation could produce, move it and distill it into the best 'horse' in the known world. :rolleyesb: That puts more highly addictive potent skag into every major city worldwide with a quickly growing need for more of it, so the street price doubles to meet the demand, capitalism at it's finest! :Burger: That equates to richer dealers who buy great fire-arms, Kevlar body armor and use CIA style tech to get the product into the veins of millions of veins per minute, along with a lot of HIV, Hep-C and other deadly bugs that finally puts most junkies into very expensive hospitals, paid for by your tax dollars as they don't have health insurance because they spent all their money on Afghan-white smack! Calculate maybe 10% of sloppy dealers who get caught going into prisons so full if they stuff another gang-banger inside they'll have to stack them on the roof! Organized crime will have more cash than Bill Gates meaning they will buy who they want into power and run most of the senior police departments who act on the funding they get from the local politicians who will be on someone's pay-roll that makes the federal/state wages look like minimal wage. Honest, moral cops quit or have 'accidents', or get whacked by overpowering superior BG full-auto weapons. Desperate for more horse armed junkies will be jacking or mugging anything that has value for another fix, and our coast-guard will spend billions trying to stop the influx. ($10billion won't be enough to stop even 1/2 the flow to the U.S.), in other nations no one would be around to take on armed speed-boats with armor plating and twin .50's fore & aft. :Image23: And as this poppy juice sells then billions will flow back thru highly organized crime families to the Talliban and al-Q who will then buy better weapons and kit their muj out with gear our best SEAL teams don't even have. Coming soon to a harbor/port then to a local bad part of town near U, a Talliban bought ex-Soviet nuclear submarine that will deliver the product ready to roll into fleets of unionized truckers who will bring their loads into warehouses for more cutting and distribution down to the dealer's $5million homes just like Dominoes! :25-cool2: The FBI will have a backed-up case load that armed bank robbers will be 10 years down the line from even a visit from the suits or the local SWAT teams. Can anyone think of a better way to blow $10,000,000,000 than turning Afghanistan into a giant red poppy field that could be seen from the international space station without even binos? We don't need a war to destroy us, with dependence on Arab oil and Muslim 'H', no troops to impose martial law because they are all over in Iraq or fighting the same (now better armed) Talli-Tubbies :icon_finger: we are supplying with enough fertilizer and cash they won't come back when the cops lose control, and folks ask me why I want to own a gun. Please explain that I need one to protect myself from my own government's humanitarian efforts to help those poor Afghan sods learn how to become better farmers! :5: Canis-Lupus :headphone:
__________________ "The willingness with which our young people are likely to serve in any war, no matter how justified, shall be directly proportional as to how they perceive veterans of earlier wars and how they were treated and appreciated by this country." George Washington 1789 ![]() |
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| Make it strong enough and it will cure them. Or even better cut it with gun powder and when they cook it goodby. |
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| We really do not have a war on drugs in this country. Just a war on freedom and the drugs become a convenient tool to wage it. We just don't want individuals to horn in on our drug running to finance covert operations around the world.
__________________ To disarm the people (is) the best and most effectual way to enslave them...” George Mason By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. Hebrews 11:7 |
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| "We really do not have a war on drugs in this country. Just a war on freedom and the drugs become a convenient tool to wage it. We just don't want individuals to horn in on our drug running to finance covert operations around the world." HK4U. HK4U, thank you for posting into this thread. I do think with a little more insight into what I posted that led to your response I can add factual substance to what I have so far only hinted at. Take it of leave it, but what I say can be verified however you choose to. Most of our prisons have inmates serving time for drugs crimes, or drug related crimes, a few kilos of pot will get U maybe 10 years, a joint in some states maybe 3, fact! America imprisons more people that any other nation on earth, or has them on parole/probation and still linked to the penal system in some form, failure to make your P.O's meeting or blow a urine test and back inside you go. It's a big industry to keep us safe from the BG's. Check out any state penitentiary (faster job online) U choose to verify that fact with. REALITY: For a max-security say Marion incarcerated lifer it equates to around $5K a day per BG (your tax $'s) in all the security, facilities, food, utilities, laundry, guards pay, bills, guards pension funds, and SO much more to keep say some cop-killer inside (safe from us) for the rest of his/her living days. THE DEA and all the other ABC's sure think it's a war on something! Some places like Amsterdam come to mind. A place where you have the FREEDOM (you mentioned) to own a small amount of hash or pot for your own use and no cop will or can take it away from you in Amsterdam. Is that the freedoms you want here my friend, but swap hash for heroin and the law changes in both places! They will bust you even there for a kilo of skag if U are stupid enough to get caught with it! Minor dope anything in 'The Dam' dope-bust is very much like a speeding ticket here if you have over a certain weight and don't pay taxes on your sales, or it's just disregarded by their cops if it's just a few grams for your private use. Their jails are places for mainly non-drug related violent offenders, so they have less jails. Minor dope is NOT pure heroin! If you are a junkie in that nation they give you plenty clean 1-use needles and a methadone free supply so you won't jack a citizen for the H-fix, less organized crime running the show, it comes right off the docks into the dealer's cars, less full prisons and less drug-related 1 on 1 violent or property crimes. Have you spent much/any time in the cafés there? I have, so I bare witness to what I write about. Not much has changed since I was there on several 3-4 day passes [1977-9] sitting drinking a few cold potent local brews with a platoon of my non-doping G.I. Joe buddies on R & R, MUCH more interested in scoring a good lay with a legalized tax-paying and health clinic checked every month if she wants to keep that state-carded hooker legal status working gal job. No brutal pimps there, the government tax they pay provides them plenty of cop protection fast. We saw kilos of hash on every table in almost every café or diner up for sale in plain sight, measured out and wrapped to go! Not believing that any culture acted that way about any form of dope it was & still is a cultural and legal norm there, or go online and verify it for yourself. That was a while back (but Muslims had taken 66 U.S. hostages in Tehran by then, held them for 444 days so don't try the pre-9/11 'ancient history' days 'Generation-X' spin, we knew what a radical Muslim was long B 4 the towers fell 3 decades ago! Little has changed even today, just confirm that with any good Euro news or blog site. So if we have no war on drugs then we can empty most of our prisons, save billions doing that overnight, keeping only non-drug related dangerous offenders locked-up. The individuals you mention (individuals to horn in on our drug running to finance covert operations around the world) are an illegal black-ops multi-national compendium of corporations as big as IBM or Boeing combined and as brutal as Nazis on a bad day in Dachau. They employ many millions from corporate managers: Capos to Dons to Mullas and Imams to terrorist leaders and their subordinates to hundreds of thousands of mules milking the poppy's seed-pod for the white sticky fluid as their only means of survival. Our $10 billion in aid is going to make that job a LOT more easy to franchise. This is as hidden in plain sight as the Yakuza is globally, up front 'respectable' businessman in $20K suits who run shipping and banking assets for a cut, with many lawyers to keep the press or nosy cops at bay or as we move to the badlands, al-Q or Columbian FARC death-squads (the coke part of the equation) who take peasant farmers out back who won't sell to the local war-lord and cap him, his family and kin as a warning to others to comply or die. Ask any troop who has done duty in the 'Stan how that scam works. Ask a Vet about Columbian drug-ops but don't expect an answer! The names on the hush-lists are probably folks who make our daily headlines or domestic & foreign policy, probably household names you think you know all about for many nations to include ours, or the militant branches who remain on FBI/Interpol 'Most Wanted' fliers or internet sites. Yesterday one of our 'covert' ops killed off 11 Pakistanis in their own land. Unknown if they were innocent folks or Talli-Tubbi chiefs, but if 'our' drug money is making it into the DOD to cause SNAFUS like that, then it is not enough and making very little impact on a much greater network of what I was alluding to when my government gives Afghanistan $10,000,000,000 and expects them to build new schools and hospitals or even fresh water to drink, no. Try to be used to water poppy plants year round, something they couldn't do B 4, and what legitimate aid money is left after it has been spent to help saturate global societies with potent heroin does little to help with the fragile support we get to use Pakistan as a staging area for ops into Talliban or al-Q badlands, that since 2002 have sucked-up all we sent them, repayed nothing & done very little to change the real poverty that opium cash will not be used to improve your average peasant's daily life, but may impede our incursions into their hoods. You can not blame 32-million Afghans for 9/11 even if it is a 'catchy phrase' when only a very small fraction had anything to do with it. The Talliban moved into the 'Stan, took it over by force and granted ObL a place to be a nut-job wanker until we showed up. The average Afghan nobody had no say in that. Our so-called allies the Saudis spawned a few fanatical rich independent radical citizens funded by the bin-Laden construction company, which BTW still thrives today, made up the main body & funding of the hi-jackers on 9/11, even if they did train for it in a few training camps in the 'Stan (and Iran and Yemen and Somalia and even in Europe and Canada!), places your average Afghan would be shot dead or arrested for even going near. No! I am not condoning Jack just stating facts that should be obvious to anyone who asks the right questions before they cut a $10-billion check to a nation we are are FAR from controlling, and right now (as I post this) combined Afghan, U.S., Brit and other nation's forces are driving weakened Talliban forces back to meet reinforced Pakistani forces at a border clash in a classic encircle & entrapment maneuver last time I checked Sky-News © or other government online sources to grant them their wish to go meet Allah in person! We can oblige that desire! And over the border in Pakistan there are maybe a million waiting to take their place. That heroin money will go a long way to kitting them out with some pretty potent arms and buy-up more followers. I am not trying to change your take on my post, but just help bring it into a focus that is something much more insidious you may now see has pretty dire consequences for many other places than just the USA, and few easy ways to justify much with conspiracy theories of US drug money being used to finance anti-terror missions. Ask Ollie North what a very bad idea that kind of double dealing almost cost Ronny Reagan his job if Ollie hadn't taken the MAJOR political fall-out bullet headed for his CiC! This is not me flaming you, if you took it that way then please find another person who you trust to echo these facts to you in a private place, or do your own research. This effects much more than guns, me or you! Freedom to do what you want to whom you want any time you want is a Credo used by our enemies as often as it is used by the U.S. patriots who (unlike those who have vowed to destroy us) we hold our freedoms in rational/lawful checks and balances they don't have but have one basis to judge that barbaric behavior from, the Koran. I hope that makes some sense. This post is too long, if you read it..fine, if not, enjoy using (probably) the most abused word in any language: 'freedom' which means so many things to so many who never really had it, or were born with it and take it for granted. It is revered by those who had to earn it not rely on others to dish portions of it out to them as propaganda or methods to enslave or control them to a will not their own by choice. Freedom to it's ultimate unbridled ends is just another word for doing unto others whatever you feel like without consideration for any repercussions you may cause them. Regards, Canis-Lupus :63:
__________________ "The willingness with which our young people are likely to serve in any war, no matter how justified, shall be directly proportional as to how they perceive veterans of earlier wars and how they were treated and appreciated by this country." George Washington 1789 ![]() Last edited by Canis-Lupus; 06-12-2008 at 01:08 AM. Reason: Touch-up. |
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| I agree we have a track record of providing tax payers money to much of the world as well as arms. Iran at one time was our "friend" and much money and arms ended in a country that is now our "enemy". Then Iraq was our "friend" as long as they were fighting Iran. Now we have had to spend billions soon to be trillions fighting our former "friend" now our "enemy". We have the best enemies money can buy.
__________________ To disarm the people (is) the best and most effectual way to enslave them...” George Mason By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. Hebrews 11:7 |
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| Some of the best dope too. We are protecting it in Afganistan. |
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