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This is a discussion on Looking beyond election day within the Politics forums, part of the Main Category category; Don't worry, the Dems and Reps will still keep keep fighting about gay marriage, abortion, and which one helps the ...

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    Don't worry, the Dems and Reps will still keep keep fighting about gay marriage, abortion, and which one helps the middle class more; you know, the important stuff that gets people fired up. They got this stuff handled. The best part is that since both Obama and Romney are OK with all of this, you get it regardless of which one you vote for!

    Looking Beyond Election Day: The Issues That Threaten To Derail the Nation by John W. Whitehead
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    The author of this article is a favorite of the Huffington post. Interesting that such a liberal publication and you share beliefs.

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    Oooooch ! That hurts
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    I could care less WHO wrote it or WHERE he contributes. Unlike many people today, I judge by CONTENT and CHARACTER. As such, these ARE in fact important issues which are NOT discussed. Why? Because there is no reason for the Dems or Reps to discuss them seeing as they agree on them. I would expect no less from you Warbirds, since your "leaders" have not told you it's OK to read anything outside Fox News...BTW, how many days is it now?
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    Don't get so upset. I didn't criticize that your beliefs are the same as Huffington post. Just made an observation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warbirds View Post
    Don't get so upset. I didn't criticize that your beliefs are the same as Huffington post. Just made an observation.

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    If that was your intent, I apologize. I did not read it that way.
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    It has been a long war, over 100 years long. Every generation since around 1900 was born into an America significantly more socialist than the America his parents was born into. The America I was born in (1958) bore no resemblance to the country merely 10 years later....which does not resemble the America of today.

    It is a sad thing. Even 10 years ago, most states would not have voted for legalized marijuana, gay marriage, etc.....things which were passed in some states Tuesday.

    But we all knew that it was true before Tuesday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fstroupe View Post
    It has been a long war, over 100 years long. Every generation since around 1900 was born into an America significantly more socialist than the America his parents was born into. The America I was born in (1958) bore no resemblance to the country merely 10 years later....which does not resemble the America of today.

    It is a sad thing. Even 10 years ago, most states would not have voted for legalized marijuana, gay marriage, etc.....things which were passed in some states Tuesday.

    But we all knew that it was true before Tuesday.
    Well, people's personal opinions on legalizing pot aside, WA's and CO's right and authority to take that step should be supported from a constitutional perspective. As should several other state-level 10th Amendment proposals that passed, including one here in Alabama, a constitutional amendment stating that no Alabamian can be forced into any compulsory health care program. Here's a list of "nullification" laws that passed on Tuesday:


    Nullification Victories!

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    1. Montana, Referendum 122
    LR-122 is an act “prohibiting the state or federal government from mandating the purchase of health insurance.” It also prohibits the imposition of “penalties for decisions related to the purchase of health insurance coverage.”
    The measure passed overwhelmingly, 65%-34%
    Full report HERE

    2. Colorado, Amendment 64

    Section 3 allows the “personal use and regulation of marijuana” for adults 21 and over. Section 4 addresses legal commercial cultivation, manufacture, and sale. The intent is that marijuana be regulated in a manner similar to alcohol.

    Colorado, after Washington State (info below), is the 2nd state in the country to have passed full legalization, and one of only a handful in the entire world.
    The measure passed by 54%-46%
    Full report HERE

    3. Alabama, Amendment 6

    This legislatively-referred amendment frees Alabama citizens from any requirement to participate in Obamacare, or any other compulsory health care program. The ballot language reads as follows:

    Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of Alabama of 1901, to prohibit any person, employer, or health care provider from being compelled to participate in any health care system.
    It passed, 59%-41%.
    Full report HERE

    4. Washington State, Initiative 502

    Whatever you call the plant, Washington DC considers it dangerous and illegal. Laws on the books in Congress – illegal. The executive branch – aggressive about enforcing those laws. The supreme court – in 2005 ruled against the idea of states legalizing for any purpose.

    But yet, 18 states have been standing up and defying DC on this issue by legalizing marijuana for limited medicinal purposes. Washington’s I-502 takes it a step further. It ends marijuana prohibition and treats pot in the same manner as alcohol. People are allowed to grow, produce, sell, buy and consume the plant – in direct defiance to all three branches of the federal government.
    The Initiative passed, 55%-45%
    Full report HERE

    5. Wyoming, Amendment A

    Wyoming voters passed a health care freedom amendment to the Declaration of Rights in the state constitution.

    The Wyoming Constitution now guarantees citizens of the state the right to make their own healthcare decisions with minimal governmental interference.
    Article 1, Section 38 – Right of Health Care Access
    (a) Each competent adult shall have the right to make his or her own health care decisions. The parent, guardian or legal representative of any other natural person shall have the right to make health care decisions for that person.
    (b) Any person may pay, and a health care provider may accept, direct payment for health care without imposition of penalties or fines for doing so.
    It passed by a huge margin, 76%-24%
    Full report HERE

    6. Massachusetts, Question 3

    A YES VOTE on Question 3 enacted “the law eliminating state criminal and civil penalties related to the medical use of marijuana, allowing patients meeting certain conditions to obtain marijuana produced and distributed by new state-regulated centers or, in specific hardship cases, to grow marijuana for their own use.”

    The 18th state to nullify federal laws on weed did it in a landslide. The final tally was 64%-36%
    Full report HERE.

    You can be against legalizing pot in your own state while taking the constitutional approach to supporting other states' rights to disagree and enact their own laws on that subject without interference from the run amok federal government. No matter what you think of pot, or of drug use in general, WA's and CO's victories against that run amok federal government should be celebrated, every bit as much as AL's stand against federal intrusion in our health care decisions should be supported and celebrated, a stand which most on this forum would support. Adherence to the 10th Amendment standard of states' rights dictates that anyone claiming to be an "originalist" or a "constitutionalist" or even a run-the-mill conservative should support freedom and respect the rights of states and their citizenry to order their sovereign territory as they see fit. I see the above as pretty decent news in the face of literally overwhelming bad news in the recent past. Make the federal government justify the authority they wield over our so-called sovereign states. Chances are, SCOTUS will rule in the .fedgov's favor, but that will just be another in a long list of usurpations to indict the whole federal government on if the backbone to do so ever materializes in the American citizenry. Doubtful, I know, but still, standing for freedom is the only choice of anyone claiming to support the Constitution.

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