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As for my income, it's GROSSLY less than 250k/yr. I work in healthcare and I know what government oversight brings. More bureaucracy, more oversight, more paperwork, more people doing less to oversee more, and LESS care for those who need it. Ever hear of DRG's? They are what say how long you can stay in a hospital for a specific diagnosis. Any longer and you're gone (basically). These were brought about by Medicare (the federal government) and now followed by all insurers. They have DECREASED th level of care people get, and increased the severity of illnesses that come back after discharge; thereby costing MORE to treat. Plus, the paperwork and ovrsight involved just to GET paid is abhorrent. It's costs more to play the game within the system than it would have if it were left alone to begin with. That's my point. When government gets involved, it only makes things much worse. Name one program the federal government administers that works well and has HELPED the system/program/industry work BETTER. I can't.Originally Posted by jwtollett21
As for his word, you've already backtracked. You stated you took him at his word and now you say you WANT to. Again, changing the rules of engagement. But I AM glad to hear you say you don't believe him. That was my single biggest sticking point. Now, who you believe more, or who you feel has the best chance of helping the most people more is a philisophical question. You believe that by helping the working man, the economy will get better. This is true, I believe, to an extent. But I also believe that business needs to be helped also to put these people to work IN THIS COUNTRY. Not to send jobs overseas, or to bring people INTO this country when there are millions here already who are not working and are getting federal monies to do so (medicaid is a federal program administered by the states). Through this, we've created a welfare state and only made things worse. I believe federal involvement in healthcare will only serve to increase this problem and decrease the quality of care given. I also believe by helping the "working class" more (and I use that term loosely to include those ABLE to work but who don't), it will serve to increase the amount of people on federal assistance programs. Where does this money come from? Taxes on business. Great.....except that they have to make money to pay money. And to do that, they have to have workers. And to do that, people need to be willing to GO to work. It becomes a circle that never ends. And then there's the purchasing of the goods/services these companies make. Who can afford to buy them if business has to pay higher taxes? They'll raise the price of their wares so they can make monsy (to pay their taxes too).
So who's right? Both actually are correct. It has to be a mix of both. That's where the line gets grey. I don't trust Obama to be willing to compromise enough to help business as well as the little guy. His ideas of "wealth redistribution" sound VERY socialistic. And if that's how you believe, then so be it. We'll have to agree to disagree. The question comes down to what you feel government is there for? Are they there to take care of us and make sure we're all OK, and all have the minimal same amount of everything? Or do you believe they are there to make sure the playing field stays fair and let people make it or break it on their own? I do NOT believe government is there to control my life, or tell me what to do and when and how, nor are they there to "coddle me" and take care of my every need. That's MY responsibility. Should I stumble a bit, sure give me a hand UP, not a hand OUT.
