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    Wikipedia says Obama born in Kenya
    Online encyclopedia can't make up its mind on president's birthplace
    Posted: July 12, 2009
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    Wikipedia says Obama born in Kenya
    By Joe Kovacs
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    Wikipedia just can't seem to make up its mind about where President Barack Obama was born.

    The free, online encyclopedia written and edited entirely by its users this weekend displayed at least two countries the commander in chief may have been born in – the United States and Kenya.

    WND documented how the entry for the "Early life and career of Barack Obama" changed numerous times.

    This afternoon at 4:45 p.m. Eastern, Wikipedia said:

    "Barack Obama, the current President of the United States, was born on August 4, 1961 in either Honolulu, in the state of Hawaii[1], or Mombasa, Kenya, to Barack Obama, Sr. (1936–1982) (born in Nyang’oma Kogelo, Siaya District, Nyanza Province,[2] Kenya Colony, British Empire), and Ann Dunham (1942–1995) (born in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas).[3][4] On his mother's side he has a half-sister; on his father's side, Obama has two half-sisters and five surviving half-brothers.[5]"


    WND screenshot of Wikipedia entry on the Early life and career of Barack Obama at 4:45 p.m. ET on Sunday, July 12, 2009

    Then 20 minutes later at 5:05 p.m., it began to include information regarding the original, hospital-generated birth certificate the president has refused to release:

    "Barack Obama, the current President of the United States, was born on August 4, 1961 in either Honolulu, in the state of Hawaii[1], or somewhere in Kenya (the refusal of Obama to release his long-form birth certificate has left this important detail without any confirmation), to Barack Obama, Sr. ... "

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    WND screenshot of Wikipedia entry on the Early life and career of Barack Obama at 5:05 p.m. ET on Sunday, July 12, 2009

    At 5:35 p.m., it elaborated with specifics about the hospital's name and the doctor who delivered him being absent from any Obama disclosure:

    "Barack Obama, the current President of the United States, was born on August 4, 1961 in either Honolulu, in the state of Hawaii[1], or somewhere in Kenya. The refusal of Obama to release his long-form birth certificate, which would contain verifiable details such as the hospital's name and the attending physician's name, has left his place of birth still yet unconfirmed. He was born to Barack Obama, Sr. ... "


    WND screenshot of Wikipedia entry on the Early life and career of Barack Obama at 5:35 p.m. ET on Sunday, July 12, 2009

    At 5:50 p.m., the issue of whether or not Obama was therefore constitutionally eligible to be president of the U.S. was part of the entry:

    "Barack Obama, the current President of the United States, was born on August 4, 1961 in either Honolulu, in the state of Hawaii[1], or somewhere in Kenya. The refusal of Obama to release his long-form birth certificate, which would contain verifiable details such as the hospital's name and the attending physician's name, has left his place of birth and therefore his constitutional eligibility as president, still yet unconfirmed. He was born to Barack Obama, Sr. ... "


    WND screenshot of Wikipedia entry on the Early life and career of Barack Obama at 5:50 p.m. ET on Sunday, July 12, 2009

    At 6:20 p.m., "somewhere in Kenya" was revised to just "in Kenya":

    "Barack Obama, the current President of the United States, was born on August 4, 1961 in either Honolulu, in the state of Hawaii[1], or in Kenya. The refusal of Obama to release his long-form birth certificate, which would contain verifiable details such as the hospital's name and the attending physician's name, has left his place of birth and therefore his constitutional eligibility as president, still yet unconfirmed. He was born to Barack Obama, Sr. ... "


    WND screenshot of Wikipedia entry on the Early life and career of Barack Obama at 6:20 p.m. ET on Sunday, July 12, 2009

    And finally, at 6:33 p.m., all references to Kenya and the question of eligibility for the U.S. presidency were scrubbed off the Wikipedia entry:

    "Barack Obama, the current President of the United States, was born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, in the state of Hawaii[1] to Barack Obama, Sr. (1936–1982) (born in Nyang’oma Kogelo, Siaya District, Nyanza Province,[2] Kenya Colony, British Empire), and Ann Dunham (1942–1995) (born in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas).[3][4] On his mother's side he has a half-sister; on his father's side, Obama has two half-sisters and five surviving half-brothers.[5]"


    WND screenshot of Wikipedia entry on the Early life and career of Barack Obama at 6:33 p.m. ET on Sunday, July 12, 2009

    The battle continued into the overnight Monday morning, as a WND check of Wikipedia at 1:35 a.m. found the entry to say Obama was born in either Hawaii or Kenya.

    The blatant scrubbing comes on the heels of several online information sites changing the president's supposed birthplace from one hospital in Hawaii to another, after WND broke the news of a letter said to be from the White House in which Obama ostensibly declared he was born at Honolulu's Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children, calling it "the place of my birth."


    Barack Obama states in this purported letter from him on what appears to be White House stationery that he was born at the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu. The letter was posted by the medical center for nearly six months on its website before electronically hidden once WND publicized it. The hospital now refuses to confirm that a real document even exists.

    When WND exposed doubts about the authenticity of the letter because it was created with HTML computer code, the hospital which for nearly six months proudly declared Obama was born at its facility and used that claim as a major fund-raising tool commenced an active cover-up, hiding that White House letter from its original webpage and refusing to confirm such a letter actually exists.

    Ironically, Kapi'olani gave the purported Obama letter massive play on page six in its spring edition of its own Inspire Magazine.

    A screenshot of the letter and accompanying article is displayed here:


    Kapi'olani used a letter, allegedly written by President Obama in which he declares his birthplace to be at the facility, to solicit donations in its spring 2009 edition of its own Inspire Magazine. The hospital is now refusing to confirm if such a letter even exists.

    WND has yet to be able to identify any physician or medical attendant present at Kapi'olani Hospital in 1961 who can recall Ann Dunham, Obama's mother, giving birth to Barack Obama at the hospital or who can identify the name of the attending physician.

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    This is not the first time Wikipedia has scoured any mention of the Obama birthplace and eligibility issues from its pages.

    In March, WND reported how the megasite was routinely deleting within minutes any mention of eligibility issues surrounding Obama's presidency, with administrators kicking off anyone who writes about the subject.

    At the time, Angela Beesley Starling, a spokeswoman for Wikipedia, explained to WND that all the website's encyclopedia content is monitored by users. She said the administrators who deleted the entries are volunteers.

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    "Administrators," Starling said, "are simply people who are trusted by the other community members to have access to some extra tools that allow them to delete pages and perform other tasks that help the encyclopedia."

    To date, Obama has not revealed his original long-form, hospital-generated "Certificate of Live Birth" that includes details such as the name of the medical facility and the doctor who delivered him.

    Here is an actual Hawaii birth certificate from 1963 (the same era as Obama's birth), which while redacted includes detailed information documenting a birth, including the name of the birth hospital and the attending physician. Beneath it is the short-form "Certification of Live Birth" offered by Obama as proof of his Hawaiian birth. It is possible to have been born outside of Hawaii and still obtain the latter form, but not the former:


    Long-form birth certificate from state of Hawaii (Image courtesy Philip Berg)

    Here is the "Certification of Live Birth" presented by Obama:


    Short-form "Certification of Live Birth"

    WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

    Some of the lawsuits question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.

    Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.

    Complicating the situation is Obama's decision to spend sums estimated in the hundreds of thousands of dollars to avoid releasing a state birth certificate that would put to rest all of the questions.

    Among the cases have been several from Democrat Philip Berg, who has alleged that not only is Obama ineligible to be president, he was unqualified to be the senator from Illinois and should be prosecuted under the False Claims Act.

    The key question in the dispute also is being raised on billboards nationwide.


    "Where's The Birth Certificate?" billboard in Pennsylvania

    The billboard campaign follows an ongoing petition campaign launched several months ago by WND Editor and Chief Executive Officer Joseph Farah.

    They are intended to raise public awareness of the fact that Obama has never released the standard "long-form" birth certificate that would show which hospital he was born in, the attending physician and establish that he truly was born in Hawaii, as his autobiography maintains.

    Note: Members of the news media wishing to interview Joe Kovacs, Joseph Farah, Jerome Corsi or Bob Unruh on this issue, please contact WND.

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    Wikipedia is not the first place to go for facts. Anyone can enter and change info on it which makes it somewhat unreliable. But here I go again, getting involved in the "birther" issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbazuin View Post
    How about his selective service registration? All citizens must register at age 18.
    How about it?
    my cousin was born at the Naval Air Station in Sicily and he had to register for Selective Service too...

    Because at the time he was a male 18-25 living in the United States...
    and like every other male in the country with a drivers license and meeting the age requirement he got the selective service letter...

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