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This is a discussion on Gun Tax within the Politics forums, part of the Main Category category; Now 'all Guns' must be listed on your next (2010) tax return! As if we didn’t have enough to get ...

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    Now 'all Guns' must be listed
    on your next (2010) tax return!


    As if we didn’t have enough to get upset about!
    If you have a gun, I hope it isn't registered!

    Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It will require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun.
    | This bill=2 0was introduced on Feb.. 24, 2009, by the Omama staff. BUT . . this bill will only become public knowledge 30 days after the new law becomes effective ! This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act o f 1986. This means that the Finance Committee has passed this without the Senate voting on it at all. Trust Obama ? .... you must be kidding !
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    The full text of the IRS amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage,U.S. Senate ef="http://www.senate.gov/%3E"><http://www.senate.gov/> You can find the bill by doing a search by the bill number, SB-2099.


    | You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do. Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know.|

    <Text of H.R.45 as Introduced in House: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - U.S.... OpenCongress <http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text> |

    Obama's Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don't fully comply.

    It has begun . . . Whatever Obama's secret Master Plan is....this is just the 'tip of the iceburg!'

    Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Ac t of 2009.|

    Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because the government is trying to fly it under the radar as a 'minor' IRS revision, and, as usuual, the 'political' lawmakers did not read this bill befre signing and approving it !

    To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.

    Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:

    -It is registered -You are fingerprinted -You supply a current Driver's License -You supply your Social Security # -You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing -Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail. -There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. -They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison.

    If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many opt ions to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family pas s this along.|

    This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip aw ay a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it.

    This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not..

    <Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress) <http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45> :

    <H.R.45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress <http://www..opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show>

    <H.R. 45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us) <http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45>
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    As it stands now, this bill doesn't have a lot of support. Not really sure if this one has any teeth yet.

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    Default SB-2099 is a Hoax.

    The Senate is saying this is an Internet Hoax

    The posting said to check the Senate Website.. So I did..
    I also checked GovTrack.us
    Say it's being covered up if you want to.. But here is what the Senate website actually says about SB-2099

    Is it true that . . . Senate Bill SB-2099 will require owners of firearms to pay a $50 charge per gun and list each gun on their federal tax form?



    The answer is no. This Internet rumor states that SB-2099 is legislation currently being considered by the Senate. The bill supposedly requires owners of firearms to list on their 1040 tax return all guns they own and then pay a $50 charge per firearm. There is no such legislation by this name in the 111th Congress.

    The facts:

    •The last bill given the number S. 2099 was in the 105th Congress. This bill dealt with federal sentencing guidelines for counterfeiting offenses.
    •Legislation that the Senate is currently working on will be listed on the Active Legislation page or can be searched for on Thomas. For more information about the legislative process or finding bills, please see the Legislation VRD page.

    Copy and Paste is easy - Please Verify Information before you spread information!!!
    Obama staff does NOT introduce bills.. Senators do..
    Note the lack of detail... If this was true, then there would be information like Senator so&so is at it again (with names supplied)..

    Let's fight the real battles and not waste time on non-battles that just make us look like fanatics and crazies..

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    Thanks for the information HootmonSccy.
    I guess after I read the following letter I became a little paranoid and the Gun Tax issue didn't seems too far out of line for this administration.

    From Commander Jerry Wilson:

    We lived in California during the winters of 2007 and 2008. We became
    addicted to Fox News and watched O'Reilly and Hannity and Colmes every
    night. When we got back home, we upgraded our cable to get Fox. I watched
    the Presidential campaign very closely. Initially because I thought the
    Democrats would nominate Hillary Clinton and then in astonishment when they
    chose an even more hard-left candidate. All of last year I told everyone I
    could that Obama was not a Democrat, he was a Marxist. He is far to the left
    of any European leader and even our far-left party, the NDP.

    I read Saul Alinsky when I was in University. I studied him and his writing
    carefully. When Bill Ayers and his idiot wife were bombing and killing
    people at random in the Weather Underground. Weather Underground and the
    Black Panthers were closely allied. I read David Horowitz's account of
    changing from a Marxist to a conservative after seeing that the government
    was afraid to prosecute members of the Panthers for murdering his personal
    assistant. He suddenly understood the evil that Marxism really was.

    After the student radicals failed in creating a Marxist revolution in the
    United States by violent means, they embraced Alinsky. You would be wise to
    read "Rules for Radicals" because it outlines how Hillary and Obama planned
    to get into power, and what they intended to do when they got it.

    Socialism is not the correct descriptor for what Obama and the Democrats are
    doing. They are going to be much more far reaching than anything Sweden has
    ever been able to do. Obama is following Alinsky's plans, those set out in
    "Rules for Radicals" and his other writing. The Democrats are attempting to
    create one party rule in the U.S. And in achieving that, will create crisis
    after crisis by their own actions and use those crisis to nationalize the
    means of production in the U.S. You are in the middle of a communist
    revolution and few in the U.S. can actually see it for what it truly is.

    The U.S. is now on the path of financial destruction. The Constitution has
    been shredded and individual human rights are being trampled. In less than 8
    months. Obama has used a recession to take over the two largest industries
    in the U.S. He will debase the dollar and is on the road to creating an
    incredible energy shortage that will allow him and Congress to take over the
    energy industry.

    But by and large I think that by the 2010 elections, the Democrats will have
    gerrymandered electoral districts to the point that it will be impossible
    for them to lose control of both houses of Congress. The incredible increase
    in the money supply is going to create Zimbabwe and Venezuela style
    inflation, and with it, controls on the currency and the amount of money
    that can be taken out of the country.

    I love America , I cannot believe how the ignorance of the American public
    has created a situation whereby they are going to lose their Republic and
    slip into an age of repression and tyranny.

    I may be nuts, but so far I have been 100% in my predictions of what Obama
    was going to do, because I merely had to look at "Rules for Radicals" to see
    what was coming next.

    I read Glenn Beck's book, "Common Sense" and in it re-read Thomas Paines
    pamphlet with the same name. I recommend the book.

    When the storm finally hits (and it will), those of you who supported the
    Obama administration will be affected as well. It won't just be us gun
    owners or Flat-Taxers, or Pro-Lifers that get hit. You'll be right there
    next to us.

    You all thought the Conservatives were nut cases. You know, all of us who
    believe in God, small government, the Second Amendment, etc. You thought you
    could just go back to sleep after the election was over. In your world,
    America will continue as before. You'll still have the same rights, the same
    nice house, the same big screen television. After all, your high school
    football team won and the other team lost - go team! Even if you have
    bothered to look up from the daily grind since Nov 4th, you dismissed
    everything that has occurred as "politics as usual--the same old stuff".

    In the end, it'll all be OK won't it? Not this time.

    There are a growing number of citizens in the US that are ready to fight to
    shut down the government's grab of personal freedom, it's blatant abuse of
    the constitution, and it's attempt to replace the American way of life with
    socialism. You have to listen carefully to hear them, but they are there. I
    won't start that fight, but when it goes down I will join it.

    As for you, why, you'll be shocked because you didn't see it coming. And
    eventually you'll be saddened when you see that we have truly lost the way
    of life with which you grew up. You'll be saddened that your children and
    grandchildren live in a socialist, government-controlled gulag where their
    every movement from cradle to grave is tracked by the government. But most
    of all, you'll be saddened by the death of friends and relatives who are
    brave enough to fight and die for something they believe in.

    You know, McCain wasn't much of a candidate. I'll give you that. He was the
    lesser of two evils for most of us. I don't blame you for not voting for him
    since, at the time, you didn't know what we all know now. But at least John
    McCain was an American. He was a supporter of the American way of life and
    he understood that you can't negotiate with terrorists. He understood and
    appreciated the sacrifice made by my father and other members of the
    Greatest Generation.

    Mark my words friends. All across America groups are forming. They are
    forming out of anger and out of desperation at the thought of losing America
    . They're not militia groups, terrorists as the Department of Homeland
    security would have you believe; they are Americans, loyal to the
    constitution. They are mothers and fathers and grandparents. They belong to
    groups like the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps, the Peaceful Resistance, the
    Constitution Party, the Young Conservatives, the 9/12 Project, and
    Grassfire. Right now they are fragmented, each focused on their own cause.
    But sometime in the next two years, our government is going to do something
    really stupid and these groups will come together. Watch for it, wait for
    it--get ready. It will happen.

    When that event happens, whatever "it" is, our great country is going to
    plunge into chaos for a while. I pray to God that we make it through that
    time and emerge a stronger, smarter country.

    Naval Aviator, Commander Jerry Wilson
    “Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master.” – Dwight D. Eisenhower

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    but never let your guard down!
    You can have my freedom as soon as I'm done with it!!!

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    Very well said..I think there is alot of folks that feel the same. Debray!!

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    Someone please do a search and see how many times this has been brought up. Seems like at least once a week but I am sure not quite that often. The unfortunate thing is while we run around getting upset about something that is never going to happen they sneak in some actual legislation that no one has paid any attention to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN1910 View Post
    Someone please do a search and see how many times this has been brought up. Seems like at least once a week but I am sure not quite that often. The unfortunate thing is while we run around getting upset about something that is never going to happen they sneak in some actual legislation that no one has paid any attention to.

    That is the plan! Get us chasing ghosts, while the real thing falls on our heads.

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    Just list your guns as deductions as well as bullets and range charges. It is exspecive maintaining a well regulated militia

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