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This is a discussion on *** GrassRoots Action Alert *** within the South Carolina Discussion and Firearm News forums, part of the Firearms Discussion by State category; My understanding is that only resident permits just like now. My feeling is that FL and GA were the two ...

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    My understanding is that only resident permits just like now. My feeling is that FL and GA were the two main states that most were interested in and the house wanted full recognition so that GA would be included. Many of the arguments against that version in the Senate were directed at GA more than any other state. New Hampshire is happy with this version and was probably behind it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN1910 View Post
    You mean the House version did not have that in it. The one that was passed was the Senate version that was originally passed byt the Senate on March 20 but then rejected by the house. SLED says that this version will add FL, CO, NE, NV and MN to th list of states that will recognize SC permits and add Colorado, Florida, Idaho, Kentucky, Maine, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Utah, Virginia and Wyoming to the list of states that SC will honor.

    The problem with the hose bill was that it removed reciprocity completely from the statutes. If a state required a reciprocal agreement SC could not grant it. The House version was great for other states but not for SC residents.
    You are correct, I got turned around when I wrote that. Since Fl and GA don't have a class requirement for their permits they will not be given reciprocity with SC. That requirement is still in there.
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    I thought that FL did have a training class requirement so would be added. I have heard several reasons given for SC and FL not having reciprocity already but don't know if any or all are the actual reason:

    Reasons I have heard:

    1. FL did not require someone to actually shoot a gun. This has been corrected that now one shot is required.
    2. FL did not have a 24/7 statewide data base of all CWP holders available. Have no real idea on this.
    3. FL does not expressly forbid felons from having a CWP in state law. I don't know about this one but sounds weird although it fits in with some other rumors being passed around by the Brady Bunch.

    I know GA does not have a class requirement and I don't know what kind of background check GA requires so no go on GA.

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    Check out this thread on FL. http://www.usacarry.com/forums/flori...next-week.html There is no such thing as a state approved or certified Florida specific CCW class. All you need is proof from a basic NRA pistol class or a letter from a gun club to qualify for a permit. I do hope that FL gets approved though!
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    My understanding is the requirements under the act is that they state only require a course of some kind in firearm training and sefety, not a CCW specific course. I would think that a NRA pistol class and certainly NRA Certified Instructor class would certainly suffice. If a letter from a gun club certifying that they have met the requirements of the club for firearm training and safety I suppose that may meet the standards.

    applicant to successfully pass a criminal background check and a course in firearm training and safety

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    Throwing aside the argument that we should not have to have the state's approval in the first place... I can see how GA is a problem... no training at all. As for Florida, I'm really confused on that... I have a Florida permit and it was just as hard if not harder to get than the S.C. permit. In fact the state of Florida bounced my application back twice... the first time I had to resubmit finger print cards.... to do this I 'elected' to go to Tallahasse and have their LEO do it.... the second time they required a certified / notorized copy of a conviction from 1978 stating the result of same and if it was a felony or not. Go figure on this since the only reason they even knew about it was because I put it on the application and pointed out I already had a CWP from S.C.... That was an afternoon at Pickens county court house to get that.

    If we get reciprocity with Florida (even if it is just residents) that wouold be a good thing.... next step would be to kick out the resident part...

    It seems to me the only way to 'fix' this permit recognition problem is to pick away at it... one little change at a time. Kind of the same way the anti-gun folks try to do with the law. Pick Pick Pick.... seems how our laws and politicians work...

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    H 3212 was signed by the Govenor last night so the new law is effective immediately. I don't know what that means but if you are from FL, VA or a few other states you can now carry in SC but may have to head to court to prove you are innocent.

    The law does not require a reciprocity agreement but we will see what SLED says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN1910 View Post
    H 3212 was signed by the Govenor last night so the new law is effective immediately. I don't know what that means but if you are from FL, VA or a few other states you can now carry in SC but may have to head to court to prove you are innocent.

    The law does not require a reciprocity agreement but we will see what SLED says.
    That's a problem that I see. SLED has no say in reciprocity now and the bll doesn't say who does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hat View Post
    That's a problem that I see. SLED has no say in reciprocity now and the bll doesn't say who does.
    You are correct on that no one seems to be in charge so I guess it will be left up to the courts. However it does say that SLED shall publish the list of states that comply so.......

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    So that would mean the Atorney General needs to tell Sled who meets the requirements. At least that's how it works in other states.

    So, what is Grass Roots doing to clear this up as quick as possible.

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