Better than money

[festus]

Money may be useless in a post fan scenario.

Barter items such as batteries, ammo in very limited quantities, food and medical supplies will come in handy.

Think about a renewable resource you have and how you may be able to exploit it to posture yourself ahead of the game in bartering.

[HK4U]

+1. I agree. Make sure you have the essentials first like festus said. I would say then after that if you have a little extra money convert some of it to silver or gold. The time may well be coming when the dollar is worthless however hard assets may be worth its weight in gold. No pun intended.

[HootmonSccy]

+1. I agree. Make sure you have the essentials first like festus said. I would say then after that if you have a little extra money convert some of it to silver or gold. The time may well be coming when the dollar is worthless however hard assets may be worth its weight in gold. No pun intended.

Let's take a micro example.. New Orleans after Katrina...

Things were pretty bad, Nothing coming into the city, people couldn't get out..
When people ran out of $$$ what did they trade?? What was of value??
It was more as Festus suggested, Water, Batteries, etc..
You didn't see everyone trading their gold chains or gold bars or diamonds.. In bad times though, these items have worth, but they don't have much value.. You can't eat gold or stay warm with diamonds..
Now some clean water or freeze dried food, or some propane, Now they may has value!!!

I know Gold is at an all time high right now, but looking over the long term it is not a great investment...
I hear what you're saying about "when the dollar becomes worthless" the question is, will all $$$ be worthless?? Maybe investing in another currency might be wise under your senario. If you can buy a currency that you believe will stay solvent, then as the dollar goes down, your currency choice becomes more valuable.. The question is.... Which one??

Buying anything (like Gold) at it's all time high level, is not usually wise.. (buy low, SELL high)

Just some thoughts..

[HK4U]

Short term and perhaps even mid term I would say yes food, water and things you can trade is what you want to concentrate on. As I said gold and sliver only if you have necessary items well covered. I am thinking hard assets like these for long term if and when the economy does come back eventually. Gold and silver historically holds its value where as nations currencies are only as good to the extent that someone is willing to accept them and inflation will wipe them out. Biblical speaking if what we enter is end times as prophesied in scripture then gold and silver want do you much good.

[1911 Headbanger]

Can you say AMMO? How about MAGS? Or GUNS? Those will be worth more than Gold. I have a buddy who is buying used guns and storing them away, along with all types of Ball ammo, and hi-cap mags for the most popular guns. He's been buying inexpensive single barrel shotguns and boxes of 12 ga. shells.
Next would be food, candy, medical supplies, smokes, coffee, wine or liquor, tea, sugar, salt, seasonings. Anything that runs out, and people want, will get you something in return. Just keep thinking about it. What do people use everyday, that they would want "badly" if it wasn't available?
My stash is simple. Most popular calibers of ammo, 9mm, 38 spec, 40, 45 acp, 22 LR, 12 ga, 30-06, 30-30; all of it ball or inexpensive soft point. Jack Daniels or Jim Beam and Vodka. In the fifth bottles and small flask type bottles. Coffee and Tea Bags. We drink alot of coffee, so after you have a hundred pounds, start rotating it out. It stores for much longer than you think, especially in the sealed foil bags. I remember in the 80's, there was a coffee shortage and the prices went sky high. People were raiding and holding up coffee delivery trucks and breaking into warehouses. People can make liquor, but most people can't. How long will it take to get to the point where moonshine takes over like it did in the 30's. But will there be enough corn and sugar to make it? Ammo is self explanitory.

[airbornerangerboogie]

Batteries are pershibles, my ammo wouldn't be for trade. Try tobacco, coffee, liquor, toilet paper, femine products, sewing kit, and canned goods for barter goods

[festus]

Eggs...an excellent source of protein.
Vegetables...vitamins and nutrients
Fruits...more vitamins and nutrients
Fish...brain food/protein

poultry...meat, feathers/down
livestock...more meat/leather
Rabbits, meat/fur

These are all renewable resources that can be exploited/bartered in a post fan scenario they are all labor intensive but really what worth having isn't?

[2beararms]

Water! That is why the center of my Bug out Bag is a portable water purifier. A guy on a bridge in New Orleans that could have cleaned a liter of water an hour for the first few days could have named his own price in barter.

Of course, I want my ammo to keep someone from simply appropriating my water.

Of course, in the slightly longer run, the most likely items of highest value and ease of exchange will be what they always are ... Liquour and Cigarettes.

[boris]

the time to get these items is now, if possible. and use the k.i.s.s. principle. we are working on beans, bullets and band aids. coffee, though, that i need to store........ boy, it's gonna get tough.......

[Know1]

+1 on the most portable water filter available +1000 on putting your money into gold ASAP!! Can't stress that enough, gold broke its value recently, the dollar is, well, you know...