First time flying with a pistol

[Kyle Tharpe]

Hi everyone, new to the forum, have been lurking for some time just figured id join, looks like a fine bunch of guys and gals here. Anyways Im getting ready to fly to TN, and gonna be taking my revolver for self defense, looked up the laws and all that jazz so i could bring it with me, legally.

I have a hard sided case that im going to be sticking the revolver in and locking that up (thats a given), the question I have is the case that that case is going into is a hard Pelican 1500 series case that has lock holes, can I use like master locks to lock the pelican case as well as the pistol case? Call me paranoid but i dont want anyone walking off with my weapon.

[NavyLCDR]

You can, but TSA will cut them off. Your best bet would be to put the pistol case in standard luggage that doesn't just scream "GUN INSIDE!"

Unloaded gun in hardsided pistol case with a factory box of ammo in the pistol case, non-TSA locks on the pistol case, declare to the luggage counter person that you have an unloaded firearm in checked baggage to declare, sign the declaration tag, put the tag next to the pistol case in standard luggage that looks like every other piece of luggage, TSA approved lock on the luggage. Follow what the luggage counter person tells you as far as any special TSA screening goes.

[trophyhunter]

First off welcome to USACarry, Glad to have you aboard.

To ensure 100% Compliance while flying your best bet is to conatact TSA, and get all the details from them.

They will be able to give you all the Laws, and Rugulations.
This way you will get the correct Information, Right from those who create, and oversee these Regulations.

Good luck on you trip, hope you enjoy yourself. I have family that live about 20 miles west of Nashville.

[NavyLCDR]

To ensure 100% Compliance while flying your best bet is to conatact TSA, and get all the details from them.

They will be able to give you all the Laws, and Rugulations.
This way you will get the correct Information, Right from those who create, and oversee these Regulations.

Respectfully, all the OP will get is the person's opinion that they talk to, which may or may not agree with the actual regulations.

[NavyLCDR]

Electronic Code of Federal Regulations:

§ 1540.111 Carriage of weapons, explosives, and incendiaries by individuals.

(c) In checked baggage. A passenger may not transport or offer for transport in checked baggage or in baggage carried in an inaccessible cargo hold under §1562.23 of this chapter:
(1) Any loaded firearm(s).
(2) Any unloaded firearm(s) unless—
(i) The passenger declares to the aircraft operator, either orally or in writing, before checking the baggage, that the passenger has a firearm in his or her bag and that it is unloaded;
(ii) The firearm is unloaded;
(iii) The firearm is carried in a hard-sided container; and
(iv) The container in which it is carried is locked, and only the passenger retains the key or combination.
(3) Any unauthorized explosive or incendiary.
(d) Ammunition. This section does not prohibit the carriage of ammunition in checked baggage or in the same container as a firearm. Title 49 CFR part 175 provides additional requirements governing carriage of ammunition on aircraft.

[Keykutter]

You can, but TSA will cut them off. Your best bet would be to put the pistol case in standard luggage that doesn't just scream "GUN INSIDE!"

Unloaded gun in hardsided pistol case with a factory box of ammo in the pistol case, non-TSA locks on the pistol case, declare to the luggage counter person that you have an unloaded firearm in checked baggage to declare, sign the declaration tag, put the tag next to the pistol case in standard luggage that looks like every other piece of luggage, TSA approved lock on the luggage. Follow what the luggage counter person tells you as far as any special TSA screening goes.

Not saying your wrong, and you are the resident expert, but I was pretty certain the ammo could not be in the same box as the pistol. That was what I was told at the ticket counter and that suited me so now I'm confused.

Continental ticket agents, at least, like it separate. That's the way I always carry it since the first time they told me.

KK

....yeah, you posted before I wrote this and didn't see the Reg. Maybe it was just Continental or that ticket agent who had non-understanding of the reg.

Southwest says the same thing as the reg.

Ammunition

Small arms ammunition for personal use (provided it is properly packed) is permissible in checked baggage only.
The ammunition may be placed in the same container as the firearm and must be securely packed in cardboard (fiber), wood, or metal boxes, or other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition.
When checking ammunition, Customers are limited to 11 pounds gross weight (ammunition plus container) per person.
Magazines or clips containing ammunition must be securely packaged (placed in another small box or in a secure cutout in the carrying case, in order to protect the primer of the ammunition).
Make sure guns are unloaded and definitely never transport a gun in your carryon baggage!



It helps to have a resident NavyLCDR!

[NavyLCDR]

Not saying your wrong, and you are the resident expert, but I was pretty certain the ammo could not be in the same box as the pistol. That was what I was told at the ticket counter and that suited me so now I'm confused.

Continental ticket agents, at least, like it separate. That's the way I always carry it since the first time they told me.

KK

It's right in the Federal regulations, however certain airlines may have further restrictions. If the airline has a further restriction, just put the box of ammo in the luggage instead of pistol case.

Electronic Code of Federal Regulations:

§ 1540.111 Carriage of weapons, explosives, and incendiaries by individuals.


(c) In checked baggage. A passenger may not transport or offer for transport in checked baggage or in baggage carried in an inaccessible cargo hold under §1562.23 of this chapter:
(1) Any loaded firearm(s).
(2) Any unloaded firearm(s) unless—
(i) The passenger declares to the aircraft operator, either orally or in writing, before checking the baggage, that the passenger has a firearm in his or her bag and that it is unloaded;
(ii) The firearm is unloaded;
(iii) The firearm is carried in a hard-sided container; and
(iv) The container in which it is carried is locked, and only the passenger retains the key or combination.
(3) Any unauthorized explosive or incendiary.
(d) Ammunition. This section does not prohibit the carriage of ammunition in checked baggage or in the same container as a firearm. Title 49 CFR part 175 provides additional requirements governing carriage of ammunition on aircraft.

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text...1.25.5&idno=49

§ 175.10 Exceptions for passengers, crewmembers, and air operators.

(8) Small arms ammunition for personal use carried by a crewmember or passenger in checked baggage only, if securely packed in boxes or other packagings specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition. Ammunition clips and magazines must also be securely boxed. This paragraph does not apply to persons traveling under the provisions of 49 CFR 1544.219.

[Kyle Tharpe]

As far as the ammo is concerned alligiant air doesnt require it being in a separate bag so ill use the box my ammo came in from the factory and stuff it in the same case as the pistol case. As far as the main bag goes, not real fond of using the TSA Locks to secure it. Since I bought the pelican case for the purpose of holding not only the pistol case but clothing and other stuff as well Ill go ahead and use it.

If i have to, ill call the airport and talk with someone and see what is acceptable and what isnt. Im just really paranoid about this and want to be prepared but be on the right side of the law at the same time

[NavyLCDR]

Not saying your wrong, and you are the resident expert, but I was pretty certain the ammo could not be in the same box as the pistol. That was what I was told at the ticket counter and that suited me so now I'm confused.

Continental ticket agents, at least, like it separate. That's the way I always carry it since the first time they told me.

KK

United now operates Continental. According to Google, Continental allowed ammo in the case with the firearm or separate in luggage and United does as well:

United Airlines - Sports equipment

No more than 11 pounds of ammunition may be carried. The ammunition may be packed in the same container as the firearm or in a separate container. Ammunition must be packed in the manufacturer's original package or securely packed in fiber, wood or metal containers. The ammunition inside the container must be protected against shock and secured against movement.

[Kyle Tharpe]

First off welcome to USACarry, Glad to have you aboard.

To ensure 100% Compliance while flying your best bet is to conatact TSA, and get all the details from them.

They will be able to give you all the Laws, and Rugulations.
This way you will get the correct Information, Right from those who create, and oversee these Regulations.

Good luck on you trip, hope you enjoy yourself. I have family that live about 20 miles west of Nashville.

Im going to Crossvile to see a friend of mine, might try to hit some other cities while there