UT DPS urges UT lawmakers... no more non-resident permits.

[ProShooter]

Thank you for providing the email addresses.

I just sent my emails asking them to reconsider their support of the bill.

[calmp9]

Originally Posted by netentity

We're already seeing phase one of this happening with non-resident Utah instructors possibly being eliminated under HB204 this legislative session. I have e-mailed UT BCI. The Director e-mailed me back today that he doesn't know how this will affect non-resident instructors that renew before the bill becomes law so I am taking a chance that I am throwing good money towards a certification that will be revoked shortly after obtaining it. I'm taking the March renewal class in West Jordan Utah. I have also e-mailed Go!Utah, Clark Aposhian and Curtis Oda on HB204. Since some key players in the Utah RKBA are backing this bill, there's a good probability us non-resident Utah CFP instructors are probably going to get thrown under the bus with non-resident CFP holders being next.

One of the things that irk me that I am going to hold all Utahns to is why isn't this an issue in Florida? Florida has a comparable number of States to Utah and they have been shall issue for over 20 years. Florida also has one of the most liberal training requirements of all of the shall issue States with a training requirement. Florida has at about five times as many license holders as Utah does total currently.

We also have the States with no training requirement such as NH, PA and WA. Many things in the SLC Tribune article stink.

Thanks for the update. Will they still accept a nonresident CCW application from out of state? My brother and I took the Utah training a long time ago. I got my permit but my brother has yet to file his app. He brought it up today and it prompted me to check this forum. Can he still get his permit if he mails it in now?

Any info is appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[calmp9]

Originally Posted by netentity

We're already seeing phase one of this happening with non-resident Utah instructors possibly being eliminated under HB204 this legislative session. I have e-mailed UT BCI. The Director e-mailed me back today that he doesn't know how this will affect non-resident instructors that renew before the bill becomes law so I am taking a chance that I am throwing good money towards a certification that will be revoked shortly after obtaining it. I'm taking the March renewal class in West Jordan Utah. I have also e-mailed Go!Utah, Clark Aposhian and Curtis Oda on HB204. Since some key players in the Utah RKBA are backing this bill, there's a good probability us non-resident Utah CFP instructors are probably going to get thrown under the bus with non-resident CFP holders being next.

One of the things that irk me that I am going to hold all Utahns to is why isn't this an issue in Florida? Florida has a comparable number of States to Utah and they have been shall issue for over 20 years. Florida also has one of the most liberal training requirements of all of the shall issue States with a training requirement. Florida has at about five times as many license holders as Utah does total currently.

We also have the States with no training requirement such as NH, PA and WA. Many things in the SLC Tribune article stink.

Thanks for the update. Will they still accept a nonresident CCW application from out of state? My brother and I took the Utah training a long time ago. I got my permit but my brother has yet to file his app. He brought it up today and it prompted me to check this forum. Can he still get his permit if he mails it in now?

Any info is appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[netentity]

Originally Posted by calmp9

Thanks for the update. Will they still accept a nonresident CCW application from out of state? My brother and I took the Utah training a long time ago. I got my permit but my brother has yet to file his app. He brought it up today and it prompted me to check this forum. Can he still get his permit if he mails it in now?

Any info is appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

There is a bill in the Utah legislature to make Utah CFPs resident only however that one will get killed by the pro-RBKA Utah legislators and has no support by the Utah pro-gun organizations.

It gets introduced every year by the same SLC liberal; Senator McCoy of SLC. Hope there's no relation to you, Luke.

Keep in mind that you must apply for your Utah CFP within one year of instruction. If it's past one year, he'll have to take the class all over again.

I am considering doing a non-resident Utah CFP instructor farewell tour and see how many people I can teach before my Utah instructor certification expires on May 1, 2009. The earliest HB204 will take effect would be July 1, 2009 so any instruction from me should be good. It will be in accordance to Utah BCI regulations of course. It will be the bare minimum class with no live fire qualification; classroom only.

After May 1, 2009 I will be just teaching Nevada, North Dakota and the NRA classes I am certified to teach.