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What's different now when applying for a CPL

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    Are the sheriffs doing anything different on the background checks when applying for a permit,I read somewhere that if you got your permit after I think it was July of 2011 they don't have to send paperwork into nics when you buy a gun,although they still do. I read something that the sheriffs check with nics now? I thought that was already a check for a cpl. So I guess my question is,is there anything different for those that got there permit before July 2011?
    And yep this is my 1st post and I do have a cpl.

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    There is nothing different.

    WA State Licensing: Firearms Purchase/Delivery Requirements

    The CPL only affects handgun purchases. In Washington State there are two separate background checks required to purchase a pistol, the FBI NICS check required by Federal law and the local LE Agency check required by state law. With your CPL, you have already passed the LE Agency local check, so the dealer does not have to wait for that, they simply call FBI NICS and get their approval and you are good to go. Without the CPL, the local dealer does not do the FBI NICS check, instead they forward the application to purchase the pistol to the local LE Agency and they perform both their own background check AND the FBI NICS check. If both their background check and FBI NICS comes back clean, they approve the application to transfer the pistol.

    Rifles and Shotguns in Washington State only require the FBI NICS check and the dealer will always perform that, regardless of CPL status.

    Here are the changes in July, 2011:
    http://www.dol.wa.gov/business/firearms/falaws.html

    None of the changes affect purchasing firearms.
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    So when you apply in Washington state,does the sheriff do a nics check for the permit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scvette View Post
    So when you apply in Washington state,does the sheriff do a nics check for the permit?
    Yes, according to RCW 9.41.070:

    (2)(a) The issuing authority shall conduct a check through the national instant criminal background check system, the Washington state patrol electronic database, the department of social and health services electronic database, and with other agencies or resources as appropriate, to determine whether the applicant is ineligible under RCW 9.41.040 or 9.41.045 to possess a firearm, or is prohibited from possessing a firearm under federal law, and therefore ineligible for a concealed pistol license.

    However, RCW 9.41.090 requires the dealer to perform the NICS check prior to transfer of any firearm:

    (2)(a) Except as provided in (b) of this subsection, in determining whether the purchaser meets the requirements of RCW 9.41.040, the chief of police or sheriff, or the designee of either, shall check with the national crime information center, the Washington state patrol electronic database, the department of social and health services electronic database, and with other agencies or resources as appropriate, to determine whether the applicant is ineligible under RCW 9.41.040 to possess a firearm.

    (b) Once the system is established, a dealer shall use the state system and national instant criminal background check system, provided for by the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (18 U.S.C. Sec. 921 et seq.), to make criminal background checks of applicants to purchase firearms. However, a chief of police or sheriff, or a designee of either, shall continue to check the department of social and health services' electronic database and with other agencies or resources as appropriate, to determine whether applicants are ineligible under RCW 9.41.040 to possess a firearm.
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    What changed in July of 2011 was the passing of Substitute House Bill 1923..

    boiled down: If you're ineligible for firearm possession on a Federal level.. you're disqualified for a CPL on the state level

    quite a handy new tool..I'm able to disqualify a whole new range of people that I had to sign off on before.

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