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Thread: Civil rights of ccw victims

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    Default Civil rights of ccw victims

    Hello all. I have read alot of threads on if you find yourself having to shoot and assailant, that is justifiable, and the assailant is killed. What exactly are the guidelines for our rights as defenders of our lives, so we are not thrown in prison or sued? Does Wisconsin have any law protecting us from being thrown in prison and/or sued for rightly protecting our own lives as well as the lives of others? Now I know that if you shoot the BG in the head, then that is considered "intent to kill". So center mass of the body (frontal not in the back)is the ideal target. Also, what about using hollow points? I'm a firm believer in using hollow points to stop the threat much quicker and less of a chance to pass all the way thru and possibley hit and innocent bystander. Love to hear everyones views....preferrably an attorney and/or Law Enforcement officer. A Judge is welcome as well if there is any on this forum. Thanks in advance for your input.





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    Does having a CCW license give me a greater right to defend myself or others than anyone else?

    No. A CCW license does not give anyone any new or additional rights to exercise self
    defense or defense of others as provided for by law.

    A brief summary of Wisconsin law is as follows:
    “A person is privileged to threaten or intentionally use force against another for the
    purpose of preventing or terminating what the person reasonably believes to be an
    unlawful interference with his or her person by such other person. The actor may
    intentionally use only such force or threat thereof as the actor reasonably believes is
    necessary to prevent or terminate the interference. The actor may not intentionally use
    force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless the actor
    reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great
    bodily harm to himself or herself
    .” Wis. Stat. § 939.48(1).

    “A person who provokes an attack, whether by lawful or unlawful conduct, with intent to
    use such attack as an excuse to cause death or great bodily harm to his or her assailant
    is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense.” Wis. Stat. § 939.48(2)(c).

    “A person is privileged to defend a 3rd person from real or apparent unlawful interference
    by another under the same conditions and by the same means as those under and by
    which the person is privileged to defend himself or herself from real or apparent unlawful
    interference, provided that the person reasonably believes that the facts are such that the
    3rd person would be privileged to act in self-defense and that the person’s intervention is
    necessary for the protection of the 3rd person.” Wis. Stat. § 939.48(4).

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    Shooting them in the head or anywhere else has no bearing on whether you'll be charged or not.
    If you shoot at someone, regardless of whether you kill them, hurt them or even hit them, prepare to be charged with a felonious crime. Find a good lawyer. NOW. Before you carry.
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    Man when are you all going to see the trolls more quickly? Hot button topic and ONE post....
    Ruger LCP, XDM 9mm Compact, HK45c

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    CCW Victims, think not, the victim would be me if I were not armed. Peace, Love, Colt 45 Victim my ass.

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    Chazz, you might have been better off going to the General Discussion Area-Introduction Thread for your first post.
    MN Carry Permit gave you a good answer. Some of the other posts were not as kind. We have all asked questions (myself included), that might appear to others, out of line, improper, or dumb. I like to see what the person does with the answer before I pass judgment. Most of us hope we never have use are weapon, because no matter the outcome, your actions will be scrutinized from every angle.
    Even though I walk through the valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no Evil, for YOU are with me; Remington 44 Mag:

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