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  1. #11
    Thank you so much for writing.

    After the people, like yourself, who have been kind enough to reply, I have an entire "mass effect" that says "the law is not the law". If you read your "Bama State Code", you will find it FILLED with things about guns, knives, and carry that can get you wrapped up right quick. Look up the "Bowie Knife" provision, and you will see what I mean.

    But it seems like everyone is just going on about business and ignoring it. Do you [or anyone else] know how successful the movement to make 'Bama a "Shall Issue" state is, at the present? I would love to know if there is pending legislation.

    By the way, you had no way of knowing, but I grew up in Harlan County, Kentucky, and the only people we were allowed to curse were Yankees and Mr. Peabody. Like I said, you couldn't have known, but I feel the same way about Yankees as I do about the intrusion into our second amendment rights. And living with them has been like living with a bunch of heathen Talibanis. Most of these folks don't know honor or honesty from an egg sandwich, and I will be mightily glad to be shut of them!

    Thank you again, so much, for taking the time to write. It was a big help, and I am feeling better about the whole thing, if still pretty confused.

    All the best,

    -S

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  3. #12
    For those who have been kind enough to write to me about knives in particular, I thought I would post this. Maybe it will help keep someone out of trouble.

    Please let me know what you think.

    Alabama Code - Section 13A-11-50 — Carrying concealed weapons.
    Except as otherwise provided in this Code, a person who carries concealed about his person a bowie knife or knife or instrument of like kind or description or a pistol or firearm of any other kind or an air gun shall, on conviction, be fined not less than $50.00 nor more than $500.00, and may also be imprisoned in the county jail or sentenced to hard labor for the county for not more than six months.
    (Code 1852, §15; Code 1867, §3555; Code 1876, §4109; Code 1886, §3775; Code 1896, §4420; Code 1907, §6421; Code 1923, §3485; Code 1940, T. 14, §161; Code 1975, §13-6-120.)

  4. #13

    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by archangel1911a1 View Post
    Thank you so much for writing.

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    By the way, you had no way of knowing, but I grew up in Harlan County, Kentucky.

    -S
    Archangel: My family is from Harlan and Clay counties. A small town and post office are named after one of my great-uncles in Harlan county. Small world, huh? You will find Alabama just as inviting as Kentucky with plenty of hunting and fishing and usually milder winters. This year has been an exception tho'. Take care.

  5. It is not that bad

    Alabama is pretty laid back about gun laws. The one thing to always be careful about here is that we tend to give Law Enforcement Officers a LOT of leeway. It is not unusual at all for an officer to draw on you. Get your hands up and keep your whits about you and be very respectful and there should not be a problem. Yes if you are wandering around with a bowie knife on your person there is a risk that it might be taken (especially if it is particularly "cool"). I can't see it escalating to charges unless you provoke the officer in some way. You will probably have less trouble with Perry County LEOs over a knife, than if you tried to walk into a club on Birmingham's Southside or were walking up and down the beach in Gulf Shores. Getting your concealed carry permit is not a big hassle......we have similar issues getting your boat permit every year.

  6. #15

    Gentlemen are where you find them.

    Archangel1191al said:
    “I grew up in Harlan County, KY, and am greatly looking forward to coming back to the South. These northerners try a man's patience, as they know almost nothing about being a gentleman, keeping their word, or clamping their ever- flapping jaws shut unless they have something to say.”
    and
    “Anyone who says 'people are the same all over' has not done much traveling, . . .”

    and
    “Like I said, you couldn't have known, but I feel the same way about Yankees as I do about the intrusion into our second amendment rights. And living with them has been like living with a bunch of heathen Talibanis. Most of these folks don't know honor or honesty from an egg sandwich, and I will be mightily glad to be shut of them!”


    Well, Archangel, I was born and raised in Chicago, have traveled to 46 different states (as well as a few other countries and have lived in states from Michigan to California (including Texas). I say people ARE the same everywhere. You will find plenty of gentlemen who keep their word in the north and plenty of scoundrels in the south. Of course the reverse is true, also.

    When I lived in Texas I was called a Damn Yankee. I argued that I was, indeed, a Yankee, but the Damn Yankees were the baseball team in New York.

    It's too bad you couldn't find any gentlemen in Indiana (where I now currently live) because there are plenty of us here. Good luck in finding good people everywhere. They are out there.

    Oh, yes. Some of the biggest 'jaw flappers' I ever met were found in Texas – and they weren't imports from the north.

  7. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Derby View Post
    It's too bad you couldn't find any gentlemen in Indiana (where I now currently live) because there are plenty of us here. Good luck in finding good people everywhere. They are out there.
    Birds of a feather flock together. Maybe there is a good reason he couldn't find any gentlemen in Indiana.

  8. #17
    "Thus does the sore gentleman's wit enforce his ire." - The Bard

  9. #18
    It's very nice to see someone who can communicate a difference of opinion without playing the "nasty" card.

    I am sure you are right. I have NOT traveled as extensively as you, and as Mark Twain said, "if it were not for idiots and scoundrels, there would not be a legislature in any state in the union."

    I was making a generalization, and that is always dangerous. But I assure you that a handshake in Harlan County, Kentucky means something very different than it does in Indianapolis, Indiana. Or at least it did twenty-five years ago, and I find it hard to believe things have changed much.

    Thanks for pointing out my ignorance, and particularly in such friendly language. Obviously, YOU are a gentleman, wherever you are from. I wish there were more of your sort [as witness the "gentleman" who followed after your post].

    All the best, -

    S

  10. #19
    I squirrel hunted in Clay, and my uncles darn near drowned me in those strip pits, "teaching" me to swim [much the same way a mother fish teaches her young, that is - making sure they are underwater].

    It is good to hear from a fellow canelander, and I bet you will agree with me that two of us are still worth a dozen from most other places when it comes to "old time tough".

    Thanks for writing me. I haven't had the chance to touch base with a fellow coal-sniffer for many a year. I wish you all kinds of good.

    -S

  11. #20
    Alabama has a lot of bad laws on the books many of which are left over from the 30s and attempts by the State's elites to crush poor whites/unions and blacks. For example the code was amended in 1936 to prevent ownership of pistols by those of unsound mind but unsound mind was never defined. There's a provision of the code that requires a gun dealer to submit a copy of the 4473 to the secretary of state and local LEOs whenever a pistol is sold within 6 hours by certified or registered mail. (How do you sell a pistol after 9am and keep your store open when the USPS closes at 3pm or how do you sell a pistol after 3pm ). That record which is repleat with personal information is then public record.

    It's okay to carry a concealed pistol but could be illegal to carry a 2.76" pocket knife into mountain brook from birmingham or vestavia hills. So you're then arrested for a concealed weapon for the knife while lawfully carrying a concealed pistol.

    Interestingly enough short barrel rifles and short barrel shotguns were illegal until last year. Now under Alabama law my tromix S-17 8" barrel 12ga and AR-15 11" barrel SBR are both legally pistols under Alabama's definition of pistol for purposes of the concealed weapons law.

    I like that, but it's another example of idiots in past year making laws about things they knew nothing about. In Alabama the rule is if there's not a law even if it's a nonissue, go a head and make one. If you don't like the law just don't enforce it and bring it out as a sledge hammer to use it when you want to.

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