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    It doesn't matter which armband you wear.

    Maybe I should amplify my previous responces. Suppose a Sheriff decides that (s)he does not want to issue permits to Seventh-Day Adventists, Mormons, Pagans, Gay and Lesbian people, Gypsies or Jehovah's Witnesses? As long as the law is not a shall-issue law, that problem is a distinct possabilty.

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    that problem is a distinct poss[i]bil[i]ty.

    Oh, get serious, G50AE. You're concocting boogeymen to worry about. Just because a government official can exercise discretion doesn't mean that the official can discriminate on the basis of race, color, creed, etc. If an Alabama sheriff refused a CCW permit to a qualified citizen, the Alabama legislature would make the state "shall issue" within a week. And there are supposed "shall issue" states様ike Rhode Island葉hat in practice make things as difficult as possible for applicants, and "may issue" states様ike Maryland, Hawaii, and New Jersey葉hat simply do not issue at all.

    And I lived in the northeast for more than half a century. I guarantee you there's more antipathy toward blacks in Connecticut and New Jersey than there is in Alabama. Of course, the New York media do portray the South as teeming with klansmen looking for a black to lynch.

    It seems to me that America today has a greater problem with the arbitrary favoring of selected "victim groups."

    G50AE, you are the first person I've ever heard voice concern about whether homosexuals are treated fairly regarding CCW permits. I've filled out many a CCW application, and nowhere did I have to indicate my religion, my political views, or whether I frequent bath houses.

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    100%

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBoy View Post
    that problem is a distinct poss[i]bil[i]ty.

    Oh, get serious, G50AE. You're concocting boogeymen to worry about. Just because a government official can exercise discretion doesn't mean that the official can discriminate on the basis of race, color, creed, etc. If an Alabama sheriff refused a CCW permit to a qualified citizen, the Alabama legislature would make the state "shall issue" within a week. And there are supposed "shall issue" states様ike Rhode Island葉hat in practice make things as difficult as possible for applicants, and "may issue" states様ike Maryland, Hawaii, and New Jersey葉hat simply do not issue at all.

    And I lived in the northeast for more than half a century. I guarantee you there's more antipathy toward blacks in Connecticut and New Jersey than there is in Alabama. Of course, the New York media do portray the South as teeming with klansmen looking for a black to lynch.

    It seems to me that America today has a greater problem with the arbitrary favoring of selected "victim groups."

    G50AE, you are the first person I've ever heard voice concern about whether homosexuals are treated fairly regarding CCW permits. I've filled out many a CCW application, and nowhere did I have to indicate my religion, my political views, or whether I frequent bath houses.
    I agree with you 100%!!!! People about everything, when they work for nothing. that is how it is where I live where most of the people here are on welfare and would not get a job if they could.
    "If at first ya dont succeed, hit it harder, or get a bigger hammer"

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    Criminal record perhaps?

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    Cool Alabama

    G50AE: Believe it or not, Alabama is a very progressive state. There is no difficulty in obtaining a permit here for any race of people. If you have a criminal record you are up that proverbial creek. The only problems we have come from outside the state by people who are still entrenched in the past. Believe it or not, open carry is permissable here also as in other states and ethnicity is not a major problem. Our sheriffs are not like the ones you see in the movies. We have moved into the 21st century and they are educated and dedicated men just like any other state. Please don't trash us until you have been here and witnesses things first hand. By the way, where do you live?

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    I believe you regarding the Alabama permit process. I was playing devil's advocate at the suggestion that racism plays a part in permits being denied. I suggested criminal background because the math, updated annually from FBI crime stats, concludes that from a demographic pool of 18% of the population springs forth 70% of murder, rape and theft. I rounded the 18% up and the 70% down. Nobody wants to touch this topic, an American phenomenon and reality. Therefore, I don’t immediately believe that racism exists just because the cry goes out. I should probably not say more on the subject on this forum – another, say “politics” would be better. Have a good day.

  8. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrunt View Post
    G50AE: Believe it or not, Alabama is a very progressive state.
    Was it Alabama that had a school principle ban mixed race couples at the annual prom some time back in the 1990's? Or more recently a judge that refused to issue inter-racial mariage licences?

    Although on the flip side of that coin, Huntsville does have a chapter of the Pink Pistols. Currently my home state of South Carolina does not.

    "May issue" is a holdover from the Jim Crow era. Fortunatly South Carolina has moved on, just like every other southern state except Alabama.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by G50AE View Post
    Was it Alabama that had a school principle ban mixed race couples at the annual prom some time back in the 1990's? Or more recently a judge that refused to issue inter-racial mariage licences?

    Although on the flip side of that coin, Huntsville does have a chapter of the Pink Pistols. Currently my home state of South Carolina does not.

    "May issue" is a holdover from the Jim Crow era. Fortunatly South Carolina has moved on, just like every other southern state except Alabama.
    You are so full of crap, you eyes must have turned brown.

    I believe both those incidents happened in MISSISSIPPI, not Alabama. (That's the state that look like Alabama but the little footie thing on the bottom is on the other side.)

    Jim Crow has nothing to do with the Alabama concealed carry law because there isn't really one. The state law gives the responsibility for issuance of 'pistol permits' to the highest ranking LEO in the county and they have the power to set price and requirements. There's no massive state conspiracy. Alabama has left it up to the LOCALS. In practice, a background check and $20 is about all you need.

  10. #19
    Well I see I am getting flamed for expressing my personal oppinions. So much for Southern Hospitality, something that we pride ourselves in here in South Carolina. Aparently that's not the same in Alabama.

  11. #20

    Cool Alabama

    G50AE: Sorry if my reply was mistaken as flaming you. That was not my intention. There are things that still happen in Alabama that we are embarassed about but, for the most part, this is a great place to live. The mention of a marriage permit being denied to a mixed couple does not surprise me. There are still some die-hards left in the south but they are a small minority. I don't know if that happened in Alabama or not. I never heard about it before. As far as CCW permits, there is no difficulty in obtaining one here! I only asked where you lived out of curosity, not to cast aspersions. Anyway, I apologize if you think I was flaming you. I may not always agree with what you have to say and you probably will not agree with me all the time. We just have to agree to disagree on different subjects. Take care.

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