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  1. #61
    CCW law is important to us. WE EXPECT the Arkansas State Troopers and locals to know the gun law. Unfortunately that is not always the case. They often are having a bad day and taking it out on us.

    Troopers do hunt for things to write up. 30 Nov 10 last day of the month!!!!
    I was stopped for tinted windows. (They are legal, been checked several times). Showed my CCW. Interrogation failed. Finally wrote me a blue warning for High Beam Headlight inoperative.... at 2 pm on a bright day.

    He checked my car over and even stood in front of the car and had me flash my lights up and down until he found something.

    You remember the scorpion and the frog?

    You know what? If you write to the commander in LR, it really pisses off the troopers. I have one that hasn't spoken to me for 7 years. He doesn't harass me any more either. lol

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    unless required i will NOT disclose that i am carrying. at the same time i will be polite but volunteer nothing. i feel the same way about letting a leo in my house. leo are trained to be suspecious of anything. while in my car or in my house i do have certain rights and i do exercise them. here in the small town in eastern washington where i live we have extreamly nosey leo and you can catch them drunk sometimes at one of the bars telling things they have learned to whoever. the leo here give a bad name to the honest leo who are trying to do their job and make a difference for the better.

  4. #63
    Not to get off on a tirade here.
    Several of the LEOs went to school with my sons, and those future LEOs were dope smoking drug dealers, drunks, and thieves for quite a few years. Now they are driving Crown Vics and bitching about us going 3 mph over the limit while going down hills, etc. When I grew up in yankeeland, the old folks always said that the LEOs were the past criminals because they knew how criminals operate, so they make good cops. Maybe so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Shumway View Post
    Not to get off on a tirade here.
    Several of the LEOs went to school with my sons, and those future LEOs were dope smoking drug dealers, drunks, and thieves for quite a few years. Now they are driving Crown Vics and bitching about us going 3 mph over the limit while going down hills, etc. When I grew up in yankeeland, the old folks always said that the LEOs were the past criminals because they knew how criminals operate, so they make good cops. Maybe so?
    OK, what does that have to do w/ the topic at hand?
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    OK, what does that have to do w/ the topic at hand?
    I'm not realy sure. Maybe since this topic has been beaten to death several times, on this thread as well as others, it is time to mention CCW Badges and whether or not to carry with a round in the chamber.

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    [QUOTE=duckcallinfool;30478]I just don't understand why so many people here are getting so defensive about showing an LEO their CHL. He is going to know as soon as he runs your DL anyway.QUOTE]

    I was a cop for about ten years and always wanted folks to tell me. I was a nice guy and would thank them for having a tool they might later use to help me if they saw me in a gunfight.

    NOW though, I have a different perspective. I think it is the principle of the issue. Governments always tend to disarm their citizens, and when it happens, even temporarily, it strikes a raw spot in a freedom-lovers heart. "Your papers sir!" Most nice cops are OK folks, but they ARE the gummint! ;) Just because another person puts on a blue costume with a pretty star-shaped piece of decoration on the front, s/he is a person and I am a person. I would never initiate force against a peaceful person, but they just have by halting my movement. Now they want to disarm me? I know, I sound like a Voluntaryist! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by G50AE View Post
    I'm not realy sure. Maybe since this topic has been beaten to death several times, on this thread as well as others, it is time to mention CCW Badges and whether or not to carry with a round in the chamber.
    Don't fergit the Sheeeeeep Dawgzzzz
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
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  9. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by remington660 View Post
    I guess the law is you have to inform the police you have a carry permit even if you are not carrying..

    I have yet to see ANY state that required you to inform if you are NOT armed at the time.

  10. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by mrjam2jab View Post
    I have yet to see ANY state that required you to inform if you are NOT armed at the time.
    Officers KNOW that you have a CCW BEFORE they get to your car. It must be linked to the car tag.
    Since that seems to be the case, whether we tell him or not, he knows.

    No, I am not a LEO.

    And what is this baloney with the black/blue/black tag on the back of the car?
    Telling the general public that you have a CCW?
    Why would anybody advertise that he has a loaded weapon on board?
    That is as dumb as the NRA, etc. stickers.
    (I have guns-follow me home and then rob my house when I am gone.)

    When I see the BBB tag on a vehicle in a parking lot or gas station, I always go up to them and ask them what kind of gun they are carrying.
    You ought to see the varied reactions from the various drivers.
    Some pretend they don't know what I am talking about. Especially the women. LOL

  11. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    OK, what does that have to do w/ the topic at hand?
    The point is Sir:

    LEOs will contrive whatever excuse they can to examine and look into your vehicle without a proper search warrant. Many will intimidate and pressure you into waiving your civil rights by cleaverly manipulating the conversation.
    It works 95% of the time for them.

    The public always loses, because the LEO has manipulated another situation which strengthens his resolve to do it the next time.

    The ACLU website has a printable card that explains what to do and exactly what to say when confronted by a LEO.
    Memorize it.

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