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Here in Austin Texas, you are totally within your legal rights to shoot a person stealing your car. I would like to know what my fellow CHL holders about doing this? I personally won't do it! I have had this argument with numerous friends, and most think it's just what you do, Aside from all the legal crap, and the taking of a life over a car? Often, it's some dumb 17 year kid, totally desperate. no place to live, no parents, no job, no money. So the stealing of your car is going to cure hi/her problems!? I'm not saying I won;t call 911 and report him. I will stay in my locked home, with my sidearm at the ready, if he possibly does start the car, I will follow him so the police can do what they need to go, I just hope the person is smart enough stop the vehicle when the police pull him/her over. What I'm asking is how would you react in a non life threatening situation. I just believe that when it's all said and done, I would rather see a person rehabilitated, then dead over a really dumb decision. How do you feel? Are you justified morally to kill someone over a vehicle when you have full coverage insurance, and this person is just plain stupid?

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  1. Twistedcowboy's Avatar
    That is a bit of a moral dilemma. I think I would go outside and attempt to stop the person, hoping it would stop without a shot. If they did get my car started, replacing a tire that I just shot would be much cheaper then a crashed car at high speed. Just a thought. I would never enter any situation wanting to kill. Wanting and needing are definitely different. If the person resists, the shot doesn't always have to be a kill shot. I totally understand your point about a desperate kid, but at the same time, I have worked hard to get what I have. Never want yo kill anyone but you gotta be prepared to. If I ever caught some sicko in one of my daughters' bedrooms, he's dead. No question. But a car... the situation needs to be thought through.
  2. LoneStarTx's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Twistedcowboy
    That is a bit of a moral dilemma. I think I would go outside and attempt to stop the person, hoping it would stop without a shot. If they did get my car started, replacing a tire that I just shot would be much cheaper then a crashed car at high speed. Just a thought. I would never enter any situation wanting to kill. Wanting and needing are definitely different. If the person resists, the shot doesn't always have to be a kill shot. I totally understand your point about a desperate kid, but at the same time, I have worked hard to get what I have. Never want yo kill anyone but you gotta be prepared to. If I ever caught some sicko in one of my daughters' bedrooms, he's dead. No question. But a car... the situation needs to be thought through.
    Dangerous legal words you used: "a kill shot" & "he's dead". Any shot should be to stop the threat of deadly force against you or another person. Shoot at critical mass zone when you must shoot or don't shoot. Never fire a "Biden" warning shot or wing'm shot. I'ts not your moral dilemma: I'ts a consequence of criminal acts.
  3. m444ss's Avatar
    "I personally won't do it! I have had this argument with numerous friends..."

    Well, I don't know what you're arguing about. If the law says you can use deadly force to protect your property, then you can use deadly force to protect your property. Just because you don't want to doesn't mean that your neighbor should let his car be stolen. While the thug stealing the car might just be a good guy down on his luck, your friend might need that car the next day to earn a living and put food on his table. (I for example, am living pay check to pay check and can't afford - even for a day- to not have my car.)

    If some down-on-his-luck guy "needs" to steal a car, then he ought to mosey on over to an adjacent state that doesn't allow deadly force. If you want to steal in, say Texas, then you take your chances.
  4. m444ss's Avatar
    ..and here's the only moral delimma...
    If you don't want to shoot someone, then don't carry a gun. If you're going to carry a gun, then you better be willing to shoot (within the constraints of the law...which in Texas apparently allows deadly force to protect property).
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