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Happened in Seattle over the weekend:

As I ride a motorcycle, and am able to get to my concealed carry with ease, I am curious how others would address such a situation in a car.


Police are seeking two men who held a third man hostage in his own car, beat him and robbed him Saturday morning in South Seattle.

A man was taken to Harborview Medical Center after the incident with a missing upper tooth, swelling on the left side of his face and head and swelling on his lower lip, Seattle police reports say.

The man was sitting in a parked car about 4 a.m. in front of the Royal Hookah Lounge in the 200 block of 12th Avenue South when two men got inside his car and pointed a gun to his head, according to the Seattle Police Department.

They demanded the man drive and he obeyed.

The driver stopped his car in the 4400 block of Renton Avenue South and the two men beat him on the face and head with pistols, reports indicate. They took the driver’s wallet and cell phone and left n a green Toyota Camry.

Both men were described as black men from Somalia, about 20 to 25 years old, wearing black jeans, a black shirt and black jacket. One was about 5-feet-10-inches tall and 145 pounds while the other was 5-feet-11-inches tall and 180 pounds.

Police advise anyone with information on the incident to call 911.
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  1. m444ss's Avatar
    (1) Usually not a good idea to go with folks like that, but obviously case-by-case whether you want to risk getting hit, stabbed or shot on the spot vs being driven to an isolated place to get hit, stabbed or shot (and perhaps tortured/raped in the interim).
    (2) You can buy holsters that mount in convenient locations in the car. I don't have one and have only seen online and in magazine articles, so am not sure if you could get to one readily with two thugs already on the assault as in the specific example given here, but certainly easier to access than a pistol in an IWB trapped by the seatbelt buckle.
    (3) Could transition to a shoulder holster upon entering the car. (“Look. Don’t hurt me. I’m getting my wallet out now, okay? Bang-bang!”...??)
    (4) In this situation, if there was a gun in the waistband, there might have been an opportunity to roll out the driver door. If not upon initial assault, then, for example, approaching a stop sign or light when you’re expected to slow down anyway, jam on the breaks a hundred feet short to hopefully gain a second of surprise and roll out onto the street, draw, and start shooting...?? (Then get lawyer, esp if in FL, CO, west coast, or anywhere in the NE.)
    (5) In the stop sign/light situation, another option would be to rear-end someone or otherwise intentionally crash.

    Hey, just a few thoughts from someone who doesn’t really know. Maybe Massad Ayoob scans this site periodically and will comment.