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    Almost lost my veterinarian on Wednesday

    Went to the vet Wednesday to pick up medicine for one of the dogs. There were 'no guns' signs in the windows. I asked when those went up and they said a couple of days earlier. So I told the girl at the counter I'd need copies of the records for all my animals (3) to take to another vet. She printed those out for me. I thanked her and left. We've been taking our animals to that veterinary office for 14 years, and we've always had a specific vet there we consider our own that we request. It's a family run place. The vet we use now is the son of the owner. His wife used to be our personal vet but she left to work with service dogs. We've considered the vets to be friends even though we didn't see them very often because our pets are family members to us and their care is a very personal matter. That tends to form a bond of kinship that is stronger than what you'd typically find with people you only see occasionally. Anyway, I got a voicemail a while later that day while I was at the hospital for x-rays (those that know me are aware I broke my back a few months back). It was the girl at the vet counter who'd given me the records. She said she'd talked to my vet and he wanted her to pass on his apologies for the 'confusion', and to inform me that the signs had been taken down. She even passed along his personal cell phone number in case I had any concerns or questions. I was really glad that turned out the way it did because I was not at all looking forward to getting a new vet.
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    If you find out, I'd be interested to know the reason the signs were posted in the first place. I'm guessing reactions like yours are why they were taken down. Kudos to you for standing by your principles.

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    I can appreciate your position. The only thing I would change is how you handled it. Since you had a long standing relationship with your Vet, and considered them friends, I would have talked to them first. The girl at the desk had no way of changing things. It was only lucky that she relayed your request for your records to the Doctor. A face to face conversation would have been a better way to go IMO.

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    When it comes to medical care for ANY member of my family I'll choose the best. Gun rights wouldn't enter the equation. Same for me personally. I'm not picking a cardiac surgeon based on gun rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluestar99 View Post
    I can appreciate your position. The only thing I would change is how you handled it. Since you had a long standing relationship with your Vet, and considered them friends, I would have talked to them first. The girl at the desk had no way of changing things. It was only lucky that she relayed your request for your records to the Doctor. A face to face conversation would have been a better way to go IMO.
    He wasn't available. The vets rarely are without an appointment or without prior notice. I'm sure I could have spoken with him if I'd had the time to stay and wait a bit, but I was on the way to a hospital appointment of my own. The circumstances just didn't allow a face to face at that time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluestar99 View Post
    I can appreciate your position. The only thing I would change is how you handled it. Since you had a long standing relationship with your Vet, and considered them friends, I would have talked to them first. The girl at the desk had no way of changing things. It was only lucky that she relayed your request for your records to the Doctor. A face to face conversation would have been a better way to go IMO.
    You have a point, as I have has a couple of deals very similar, however right or wrong, handling it the way he did really let the management/vet/friend, know he was not fooling around, and I afraid I would have done the same thing
    Bad Guys of the world beware the next time you think about jumping on a old guy, because its a fair bet he's to old to fight and probably to fat to run, but can put one in your eye at 50ft with his weak hand

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    I understand, but waiting till his Vet was available and speaking to him face to face would be the way I would handle it. Same as I wouldn't tell my waiter I will no longer be coming back because the food was bad. Can he deliver the message? Yes. Can he effect a change? No.

  9. The vet chose to inform his customers through a sign with no explanation or invitation of feedback. The poster handled the situation appropriately.


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    I spoke with him again a couple of days ago when I had questions about medications for the dogs. At the end of the conversation he asked if I'd gotten the message about the signs being taken down. He apologized for the matter and thanked me for bringing it to his attention, making me really start to wonder if he was even aware the signs were there. He doesn't come in the front doors that the customers do where the signs are, so it's possible he hadn't seen them. But he was very adamant in insuring I know that it was all a mistake and that the signs were definitely gone for good. Like I said, he's a really nice guy and we get along with him really well. That's why we always make our appointments specifically with him and consider him our personal vet. His wife's really nice too. Too bad she doesn't work there anymore.
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    As for the manner of how I initially voiced the matter, you need to consider that this is a small town vet's office. It's a very small group of people that work very closely together, and they commonly share jobs. I didn't need to hand them a card or make a monetary connection to get the point across or to 'spread the word'. They all know what happens there because they're all involved with all facets of the practice. Everybody there knew what happened when I requested the records to go to another vet. I have absolutely no doubt of that. There's usually no more than six people there at any given time and three of them were in the room when I made the request. And since the girl at the desk was somewhat new, she had to ask for assistance in printing out my entire records because she'd never done it before. So everybody knew what was happening, and those not physically present would have been privy to discussions about it anyway. They're like a close knit family that way. And I'm sure Brett (my vet) had some things to say when he had them remove the signs too. So while I very much agree with the practice of handing out NGNM cards, and I do have them, they really weren't necessary in this particular case.
    Posterity: you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it.--- John Quincy Adams
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasBB View Post
    The vet chose to inform his customers through a sign with no explanation or invitation of feedback. The poster handled the situation appropriately.
    Agreed that the OP handled it correctly. However I have no problem how the vet handled it, aside from his lapse of judgment in wanting to ban clients that carry in the first place. Can you imagine the confusion if they had mailed their client list with a notice that they will no longer be allowed to carry into his facility?
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    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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