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  1. #31
    JSDinTexas Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by M1911a1lvr View Post
    Something you also want to consider when wearing a shoulder holster under a sportcoat. Go talk to a tailor and have put in a fuller cut into side that you carry. Since most jackets aren't made with extra room needed to accommodate a pistol. No matter which shoulder holster you use. I used to have a galco Miami special for my 92' I didn't like it.
    Thanks for the input - I am looking at the Galco Miami II so far. Reason for a shoulder rig in the first place is I've nestled the G23 in my armpit with a coat on and it seems to do pretty well and seems more comfortable than IWB, at least for me. This actually started cause I used a belly band but didn't like the movement - it felt sloppy.

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    Another thought...

    Another thought-
    Look at a 5.11 Tactical t-shirt holster. There are many knockoffs of these, too. I didn't like the 5.11 because it is stitched with nylon thread (fishing line) and felt very scratchy. I then used a t-shirt made of a soft fishnet-like material I bought at a cycling shop- Descente brand. That was better. I also had a tailor change some of my button-down shirts so that the buttons have snaps behind them- in other words, what used to be buttons and still look like buttons, are really snaps. Offside hand rips the snaps open, while dominant hand reaches for the gun. Just make sure that you use the "Chicken Wing" when drawing from any shoulder rig.

  4. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by JSDinTexas View Post
    Thanks for the input - I am looking at the Galco Miami II so far. Reason for a shoulder rig in the first place is I've nestled the G23 in my armpit with a coat on and it seems to do pretty well and seems more comfortable than IWB, at least for me. This actually started cause I used a belly band but didn't like the movement - it felt sloppy.
    Yeah but the gun doesn't actually ride that high up into your arm pit. It sits more along your ribs really around the 4-6th rib area under your arm. that is why your should talk to a tailor....

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    safety should always come first, but you also need to remember that "Mr Murphy" is always around.

    Your firearm could have a malfunction and fire ( Granted in this day and age that is a very small percent).

    That is why you keep the firearm in a safe direction. Now I agree with the NRA safety Rules.

    but also remember when you are carrying a firearm for defense are you really going to carry it "unloaded"

    Safety should never be compromised... You do that by training and knowing your firearm and holster.


    I also agree that firearms are dangerous things, so is driving, flying, riding a motorcycle and even cooking...(yes cooking, grease fires and things like that..)
    We live and do dangerous things all the time.

    It is a personal choice how much risk you want to take. My personal choice is barrel in a safe direction, invest in a good holster and train like your life depends on it...(because it does..!).

    You are correct. in the forum...we have different levels and ideology schools....But we all want to be carry safe :)

    Enjoy the sport with the family....it will keep it strong, happy and safe :)

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    @M1911A1Lvr

    You make an excellent point.

    I know it will sound cheesee, but when you carry you turn in to your wife (ok in a good way..!)


    You start to accessorize around your firearm...

    If you carry IWB...you buy bigger pants and a gun belt...the belt thickness depends on the type of holster you get and that depends on the gun you have. See.... :)

    If you cvarry OWB.. You get bigger shirts, suit, matching gun belt..etc.

  7. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by stingray2100 View Post
    ...but also remember when you are carrying a firearm for defense are you really going to carry it "unloaded"
    Of course you're going to carry a defensive firearm loaded. The rule states "Keep the gun unloaded until you are ready to use it." If you are carrying it for self-defense, you are always ready to use it.


    I also agree that firearms are dangerous things, so is driving, flying, riding a motorcycle and even cooking...(yes cooking, grease fires and things like that..)
    We live and do dangerous things all the time.

    It is a personal choice how much risk you want to take. My personal choice is barrel in a safe direction, invest in a good holster and train like your life depends on it...(because it does..!).
    Agreed - when we talk about risk, we talk about layers of it, and tolerance for it. But to me - any miniscule advantage gained from horizontal carry vs vertical or angled carry is not worth the additional risk to others.

    ...we have different levels and ideology schools....But we all want to carry safe :)
    I agree that we all want to be safe. (What idiot would want to be unsafe?) But - some of the schools of thought here exhibit a very high tolerance of risk to self and others...more than I am comfortable with. And in many cases, not appropriate tolerances considering the amount of training (or lack thereof) possessed by some individuals.

    In the end we each have to decide where our lines are, and live with the consequences of our decisions.

    But remember that others who cross in front of our muzzles have to live with the consequences of our decisions too. This is why none of my holsters point the muzzle of the firearm horizontally.
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    Shoulder holster = bad trouble waiting to happen. Stay away! they point at everyone behind you, next to you when you draw, and then at your own brachial artery (in your arm). If you sever that brachial artery, you will probably bleed out and die pretty quickly. You save the bad guy the trouble. Draw from a shoulder holster takes too long.
    Look at either a Kholster or a Crossbreed.

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    Flying is much more dangerous with me at the controls- LOL- had to add that in...

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    How would any of this happen without pulling the trigger.?

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    Well the jury is still out on my horiz decision. I will say that there is a lot more negative in the thread than I considered when I started the thread (and it is all valid).
    1) I agree that pointing a firearm at anything behind you has to increase the danger level a bit, no matter what kind of gun.
    2) I have considered this for comfort more than quick draw (I would think that going under a shirt with IWB would be not much different than going under a coat to a horiz in terms of speed). And I figured a horiz would be quicker than vertical draw, so the reason I look at these as opposed to vertical.
    3) I have considered going horiz with no round in the chamber, but this may not be too cool as it would take one more step in cycling the slide before presentation of the firearm.

    So, I do thank all who post on this - very enlightening, and I do appreciate your opinions.

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