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    Vary nice.. What kind of armor do you have galls? Or point blank? You make a good point as long as you can stand the weight of all the stuff. Then it's up to you how much you carry. Little off topic but i would like to ask you, how you like the 26 baton? Do you find it to be a good tool? What about the stun gun? I worry a little about as you have to get so close to the person to use it. Is your Baton a ASP Baton?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&WM&P40 View Post
    Vary nice.. What kind of armor do you have galls? Or point blank? You make a good point as long as you can stand the weight of all the stuff. Then it's up to you how much you carry. Little off topic but i would like to ask you, how you like the 26 baton? Do you find it to be a good tool? What about the stun gun? I worry a little about as you have to get so close to the person to use it. Is your Baton a ASP Baton?
    It's funny, I only began wearing body armor (by Point Blank), over my shirt about a year ago; ever since I began wearing it, I am constantly being mistaken for a police officer. I would've thought that my hat, which has the word security in big white letters, as well as the back of my armor carrier and both shoulder patches, would eliminate that confusion, but I guess people just don't read. Oh well.

    The 26" Baton, (yes, it's an ASP) was an upgrade from my last baton, which was a 21" that I no longer have because I broke it across a suspect's back during an altercation (can you believe that? I though expandable batons were unbreakable). Anyway, the 26" took a little getting used to. It is quite heavy, but with practice, I have become quite adept at it.

    As for the stun gun, it is 600,000 volts. I carry it because I am not required to be certified in it. In order to get certified with the Taser, I would have had to get shot with one, and there was no way I was going to do that. I have deployed it once, and retention was never really a problem, because by the time I deployed it, the suspect was already blinded by the Sabre Red pepper spray I sprayed him with.

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    BTW, do you carry the oil based Sabre Red or the water based?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    The 26" Baton, (yes, it's an ASP) was an upgrade from my last baton, which was a 21" that I no longer have because I broke it across a suspect's back during an altercation (can you believe that? I though expandable batons were unbreakable). Anyway, the 26" took a little getting used to. It is quite heavy, but with practice, I have become quite adept at it.

    As for the stun gun, it is 600,000 volts. I carry it because I am not required to be certified in it. In order to get certified with the Taser, I would have had to get shot with one, and there was no way I was going to do that. I have deployed it once, and retention was never really a problem, because by the time I deployed it, the suspect was already blinded by the Sabre Red pepper spray I sprayed him with.
    I've got the 16" airweight aluminum. Works great, hasn't been broken so far.

    The stun gun cert isn't so bad. Imagine the feeling of hitting your funny bone though your whole body. I enjoy the TASER very effective.

    Too bad we can't have it here in PRHI.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock Fan View Post
    I've got the 16" airweight aluminum. Works great, hasn't been broken so far.

    The stun gun cert isn't so bad. Imagine the feeling of hitting your funny bone though your whole body. I enjoy the TASER very effective.

    Too bad we can't have it here in PRHI.



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    Are you a current or former security officer, or are these things (minus the taser) that you carry due to the inability of law abiding citizens to legally carry firearms in PRHI?

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    I've heard that stun guns will stun the user if you are in physical contact with the BG. I would think this would be very concerning because a stun gun is only usable when within arms length. Does anyone here have thoughts on this?

    Thanks and God bless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biblical1st View Post
    I've heard that stun guns will stun the user if you are in physical contact with the BG. I would think this would be very concerning because a stun gun is only usable when within arms length. Does anyone here have thoughts on this?

    Thanks and God bless.
    You're right, and that's why the only time I ever deployed mine at work was after I had already sprayed the perp with OC spray.

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    Bib, thats the point i was hinting at with stun guns. Thats why i said tazer guns.

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  10. I carry LE-issue OC spray and a compact friction-lock expandable baton in addition to my firearm. If I can use less-than-lethal force then I will. For instance, if I were to shoot an attacker, I would have to stay and deal with the police once they arrived. I'd prefer not to deal with it if I can just spray the attacker and get out of dodge immediately. Obviously, if the attacker was armed with a gun, knife, or otherwise, I'd skip the non-lethal and use the firearm. Oh yeah, I also keep an assisted opening Kershaw Onion knife on belt as well.

    As much as I'd like a Taser, that would break the bulk threshhold on my belt. All of the items I currently pack are quite sleek and unobtrusive, save the firearm of course. Carrying a taser would be like carrying a second firearm, bulk-wise.
    Last edited by ToneGrail; 08-13-2008 at 04:16 PM.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by S&WM&P40 View Post
    Does any one have Sabre red pepper spray? Does any one carry pepper spray? Is it a good idea? I was talking to some one yesterday and they said they like to have a less lethal option as not every encounter calls for pulling a knife and or gun out. So what do you guys thing about this? I my self think it's a ok idea but may add more weight then is needed. As it is now i carry my TDI ka-bar on my belt then i will have my Fenix flashlight and 2 back up mags. then the gun. I am also looking at picking up a kershaw assisted open knife for a every day use knife as well as a back up. Instead of carrying a BUG.
    I carry pepper spray all the time since a CCW is not possible where I live. I have Wildfire, but I just discovered the Kimber LifeAct products. When I travel outside California, pepper spray always goes with my firearm. It's good to have another option. You just never know.
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