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  1. We used Q beams on our bucket trucks that plunged in to lighter. The good ones lasted a year or two the cheap ones reflectors melted. Some times these light would run all night while restoring power.

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  3. THE UTG BARREL MOUNT



    Hi guys,
    For those wanting a barrel mount for a flashlight or laser, I have had good
    results with the UTG barrel mount.
    Initially purchased for an AK rifle, I found out that it can be mounted in
    other rifle barrels, for example, it fits perfectly in a .22 rifle and also in
    a Mini 14 I have.

    It is a tri-rail mount with three Picattiny rails that will also accept Weaver
    style rings. My model is the #2 mount which have two slots; the UTG is also
    available with five slots that will accommodate the red dots scopes that are
    in the market.

    Picture of the UTG # 2


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    Another view






    The UTG fully loaded with two TACM III tactical lights (one with a red filter)
    and a laser.





    The UTG is sold by Cheaper than Dirt and I imagine others places that cater to
    tactical rifles. Just look in their catalogue in the AK accessories page.

    Cheers
    Watchmaker

  4. FLASHLIGHTS FOR SELF DEFENSE

    As strange as it sounds, some flashlights are used for self defense quite often in daily life.
    Sometimes by professionals Police Officers in a way to avoid using deadly force in confrontations with suspects, and other times by civilians that are not permitted to carry lethal weapons.

    In the US we have it quite good in that we are allowed to carry short knives and some others implements but in the majority of Europe such activities are illegal or highly frowned upon by the authorities.

    If you defend yourself with a baseball bat even in your own home in certain countries you have to give reason for why you have such an implement with you.

    Other lights use others means of incorporating defense mechanisms in their construction. I am thinking now about the ARES Defense Companion, a Maglite with 3 cells that incorporates a shotgun of 410 gauge (only one picture is circulating in the Internet and I think is not in production) or the Tiger Light that incorporates a pepper spray canister, or the several models of Surefire that come with crenellated bezels (one example is the popular E2D executive Defender).

    Surefire was the first (to my knowledge) at popularizing the crenellated bezel and the SureFire Institute offers a class in basic defensive tactics called “The power of Light” which is open to all qualified civilians as well as law enforcement professionals .
    The course is taught by certified instructor Steve Tarani (shown below delivering a carotid strike).




    The Borealis flashlight can be had with the optional heavy stainless steel crenellated bezel that is offered in a limited production run.
    Such bezels add 3 ounces to the weight of the head and the bezel even that is not actually sharp will be a good imitation of the broken beer bottle.
    I don’t think that an aggressor, if he is in his right mind, will confront such a weapon that first will blind him with 1050 lumens and then is ready to rearrange his facial features.





    The Royal Borealis uses a Quick Detach Swivel, that when used only with the nub for the lanyard, can be very hard on skulls and noses.



    This old Borealis model sports the heavy 3 inch head (the head is now out of production), more resembling a medieval mace. This is also a fantastic throw monster reaching over several hundred yards.



    I have in my long association with the flashlight Industry seen a few models which spray OC from the front of the lens, flashlight that also incorporate a screaming siren, flashlights that incorporate a stun gun and others weird contraptions all of them gone from the market now.

    What seems to prevail is just a good weight reliable flashlight that can be used as a baton or with the new crenellated bezels and the introduction of really powerful MEGA lights capable of blinding an assailant.

    Best regards,
    Watchmaker

  5. Watchmaker knows what he is talking about when it comes to flashlights. I've read his reviews and commentaries before and I don't know anyone who does it better than he does.

  6. #35
    What do you think of the the Fenix L1D with strobe? Could you tell me more about it? I am looking into getting it as it looks great and every one over at the M&P forum says they are great and half the forum has them. So any more information would be great.

    THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!

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    Does anyone have a home defense shotgun (something like a series 500 Mossberg) with a mounted pressure-activated flashlight? Just asking because I've found that in the middle of the night, doing this is a lot quicker than reaching separately for a firearm and flashlight (or in my case, glasses) in the dark, because you have it all together.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    Does anyone have a home defense shotgun (something like a series 500 Mossberg) with a mounted pressure-activated flashlight? Just asking because I've found that in the middle of the night, doing this is a lot quicker than reaching separately for a firearm and flashlight (or in my case, glasses) in the dark, because you have it all together.
    Not a shotgun, but I do have the Pentagon L2 mounted to my AR. It is mounted so that I have to do is use my knuckle to switch it on.

    I also carry an L2 in a Comp-Tac Combo Light/Mag carrier.
    "Always at your command"
    "לפקודה תמיד אנחנו"

  9. Quote Originally Posted by S&WM&P40 View Post
    What do you think of the the Fenix L1D with strobe? Could you tell me more about it? I am looking into getting it as it looks great and every one over at the M&P forum says they are great and half the forum has them. So any more information would be great.


    THE FENIX L1D
    AA KEY CHAIN LIGHT
    WITH CREE EMITTER

    I finally remembered to order one of them, as I am not in any sense keychain-light poor, having several of them from the ARC AAA passing through the CMG (Course Made Good) to the Streamlight key mate and Fenix’s L1P and LOP AAA.

    Not long ago, I reviewed the Jet beam II Mark VIII, which is a very similar light to the Fenix L1D. Any of the two can be considered revolutionary, and it is hard not to get excited about them.

    I opted to have the Fenix L1D that works with 1 AA battery, as I like the size and shape which is the same as the Fenix L1P that I have been using for the last 18 months.
    The L1P is a 40 lumen light that runs on one AA battery. I never did a timed run test because I always carry a couple of extra batteries in my pocket anyway to get extra run time from my lights, but wherever it is, it can never equal the multi-functional powers of the Fenix L1D.

    The extreme power is achieved by a Cree 7090 XR-E LED emitter with a life of 50,000 hours- the little torch has two models of output selected by turning the bezel.
    The first mode (as you click the light on) is 9 lumens and will last for 25 hours in the AA battery. The second mode (as you soft-press the switch) is 40 lumens and will last for 5 hours, and another soft press on the switch will access the 80 lumen power and your battery will last for 2 hours.
    There is also an SOS mode (with another soft press) using the 80 lumens power.

    Here are some of the lights, at top is a McGizmo modification (a collector’s item light worth $250 USD) it outputs 135 lumens and the big 32 mm reflector throws the light well at the 26 yards distance.
    Next is the Fenix L1D which shows it is a tad longer than the Fenix L1P , below.
    Next is the ARC AAA and the Fenix LOP, great keychain lights, all.






    The second mode of the light system is accessed by turning the bezel ½ a turn. It is a steady 90 lumens that will last for 1 ½ hours and with a soft press of the switch the 90 lumens becomes a very quick strobe, that can disorient people or help in disco dancing.

    Most chores inside the house can be handled with the 9 lumen mode. For walking the dog or hiking a trail at night I will use the 40 lumen mode; in fact, I can see that attaching it to my cap with Velcro will beat all the head lights in the market, as it is so light and so convenient without the restricting head band around my head- and anyway, I always wear a cap to shade my eyes or protect my glasses from rain, branches, etc.

    The SOS or the strobe mode will always be there if I need to attract attention in an emergency. It is even useable in the suburbs, like recently, when a member of my family fell and broke her arm in the rear entrance of a church, she landed between two pine trees and the pain was so strong that she was unable to move, or even scream for help, and a key chain light used as a signal called the attention of people nearby and she was able to summon help that way.

    Here are beam shots with the L1P on left and the L1D on right both at 40 lumens, the L1P is more yellow in the corona, but at the center are of the same intensity





    The 80 lumen mode or the 90 lumen mode puts a tremendous amount of light NEARBY. Yes, I emphasize the word because due to the small reflector (that will diffuse the light into a flood), the reach of this little light even at that power is very restricted. Oh yes, it will serve to illuminate a big room well, but when tested at the 26 yards distance where I have my deer and bear it was just as the poor results that I got before with the Jet beam, so you can check that post if you are curious about the amount of light reaching there.

    For that long distance you just need a bigger reflector of a bigger flashlight. My PR Turbo head by McGizmo running two Lithium Ion 123’s is much more efficient in putting illumination in the 26 yard spot just because the Pelican reflector of 32 mm is so much more efficient in canalizing the light.

    So, a long distance light it is not, but all the other common chores can be handled very easily with the new Fenix L1D light. The battery will last a long time on the nine lumen mode (25 hours) and will probably be my choice for hanging from the ceiling of the tent all night long, in replacement of the CMG LED that I was using until now.

    I paid $52 USD for the light and I consider the cost a bargain. With one in my pocket I just need two or three more powerful lights to cover all lightning situations that I can possible think of; for example, I will use a 200 lumen light in my belt for animal control (in the wild and in the street- and I mean two and four-legged animals) this could be a Surefire Centurion III with the optional P-91 lamp, or the Fenix T-1 or even better the rechargeable Bear Cub 220 lumen 90 minutes run time.
    For my truck or cars, I am never too far away from a Borealis flashlight, 1050 lumens and 50 minute run time, the most powerful flashlight in the world with the power of a two million candlepower spotlight.
    With that I am in control of riots, accident sites, search and rescue, and WWIII.

    Coming back to the Fenix L1D, yes I am very happy with this light. Hopefully it will give me even better service than the Fenix L1P and the LOP that I have been using until now -lights that are very good and I have nothing but praise for them.
    Respectfully
    Watchmaker

  10. #39
    Thanks for that watchmaker. I was not looking for it to be a long range light so no problems there. i was looking at it for a CC light for night if i need more light. As well as for around the house and camping.

    THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!

  11. Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    Does anyone have a home defense shotgun (something like a series 500 Mossberg) with a mounted pressure-activated flashlight? Just asking because I've found that in the middle of the night, doing this is a lot quicker than reaching separately for a firearm and flashlight (or in my case, glasses) in the dark, because you have it all together.

    I have a Mossberg 500 in which I have attached a Weaver base to the fore arm, and I use it with a TACM III pressure switch tactical light.

    But you can use any light with one inch diameter body that will accept an aftermarket pressure switch tail cap.
    The lights can be a Surefire 6P or a Pelican M-6 or a Xenon Illuminator or any other with a compatible tail cap switch.
    The Weaver 1" ring works very well as well as others Weaver Style rings.
    The tail cap with remote can be the G&P or the Tac Star or the new Xenon Illuminator tail-cap.

    The G&P switch



    The Tac Star switch with curly cord




    The Mossber 500 and two more of my guns with the long throw TACM III tactical light




    By the way, Cheaper than Dirt have a tri-rail similar to the UTG that is attached to the magazine tube of the Mossberg, you can clamp it there and have a mount for the light, laser and other accessory.






    Cheers
    Watchmaker
    Last edited by watchmaker; 08-23-2008 at 11:30 AM.

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