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    since bg was escorted out by Wal~mart employees, they should have notified police, and held him until they arrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJFlash View Post
    I was trained to STOP THE THREAT. Maybe we should change that to stop the threat PERMANENTLY. No worries then about who makes the faster phone call.

    Yep - sometimes one story is better than two...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AvidshooterTX View Post
    .... it seems to me you shouldn't have to pull your gun if you're not going to shoot. And if you feared you were in imminent danger of physical vioence then you should have shot him.
    If presenting the weapon stopped the threat and/or prevented the robbery, mission accomplished!

    Armed citizens protect themselves and prevent crimes by simply making the BG aware that they are armed far more often then they do actually firing the weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billwot View Post
    If presenting the weapon stopped the threat and/or prevented the robbery, mission accomplished!

    Armed citizens protect themselves and prevent crimes by simply making the BG aware that they are armed far more often then they do actually firing the weapon.
    Yes! Nowhere in my training was I told that if the gun cleared the holster, I HAD to shoot somebody. Matter of fact, more than one instructor advised backing up to gain some distance while yanking the weapon and screaming STOP at the BG in the hopes of stopping the threat WITHOUT having to shoot someone.

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    I think we all missed an important point in the story. DH never acctually displayed his weapon did he? He only claimed to have more then money in his pouch and began removing his hand (with pistol in it) however we were never told DH displayed his weapon. I agree completely with Stopping the threat with out shooting however one thing we must remember is were not allowed to draw unless shooting is warranted and therefore if you draw be prepared to shoot UNLESS the threat is stopped. Weather or not DH should have called the police might be dependant on if the weapon was acctually displayed or not. I personally think the store should have called the police, and DH should have given a report but who knows how or what I would have done, I can only think that I would handle the situation as well as DH did. GOOD JOB!! and thanks for showing the BG there are armed GOOD citizens in this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marionandjohn View Post
    I think we all missed an important point in the story. DH never acctually displayed his weapon did he? He only claimed to have more then money in his pouch and began removing his hand (with pistol in it) however we were never told DH displayed his weapon. I agree completely with Stopping the threat with out shooting however one thing we must remember is were not allowed to draw unless shooting is warranted and therefore if you draw be prepared to shoot UNLESS the threat is stopped. Weather or not DH should have called the police might be dependant on if the weapon was acctually displayed or not. I personally think the store should have called the police, and DH should have given a report but who knows how or what I would have done, I can only think that I would handle the situation as well as DH did. GOOD JOB!! and thanks for showing the BG there are armed GOOD citizens in this country.
    "He began pulling out the pistol. The fellow backed off immediately and left the restroom."

    Well, I guess the info is open to interpretation. Again, I feel the important fact is that he made it apparent to the BG that he was armed, whether he displayed it or not, and that was a sufficient response to end the confrontation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billwot View Post
    "He began pulling out the pistol. The fellow backed off immediately and left the restroom."

    Well, I guess the info is open to interpretation. Again, I feel the important fact is that he made it apparent to the BG that he was armed, whether he displayed it or not, and that was a sufficient response to end the confrontation.

    bill

    We don't know what the BG saw. From his reaction, it's likely that he saw the gun or at least a part of it. It wouldn't make sense for the BG to back off if he believed that the victim was complying with his demands.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JJFlash View Post
    See, this is what I don't understand. So, here I am in a public restroom where some low-life threatens me with personal violence; I open my jacket to show a firearm and BG breaks off the engagement. Threat stopped. Now, BG makes a call to LEO and gets the "benefit of the doubt"? BS. It's what...who draws their cell phone faster?

    Anybody who is lurking in a public restroom to threaten private citizens is an obvious low-life and it's probably not their first criminal escapade. So, we look at their record (lowlife scumbag) and we look at mine (father, husband, professional position, no criminal record) and LEO doesn't recognize the reality of the situation?

    My response: "Yeah, I displayed a weapon and it saved this idiot's life."

    I was trained to STOP THE THREAT. Maybe we should change that to stop the threat PERMANENTLY. No worries then about who makes the faster phone call.
    That's what I like about your posts; to the point.

    In this case I offer a "what if"... You show the scum bag who has threatened you another option (CCW). He changes his game plan and leaves the crapper and all is well. Now perhaps he has a "scum bag posse" (they do tend to attract their own types) waiting in a car in the lot. On the way out he makes you and manages to get the jump on ya.. He knows you have the CCW and knows it's location.

    I gotta go with my gut on this one and call the cops and force the issue with an arrest. Now if he does have a history of (being a scum bag) criminal activity, at least now he'll have it documented to prove to all his scum bag friends that he alone reigns supreme as "The Wal-Mart Bathroom Bandit" ... Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6shootercarry View Post
    That's what I like about your posts; to the point.

    In this case I offer a "what if"... You show the scum bag who has threatened you another option (CCW). He changes his game plan and leaves the crapper and all is well. Now perhaps he has a "scum bag posse" (they do tend to attract their own types) waiting in a car in the lot. On the way out he makes you and manages to get the jump on ya.. He knows you have the CCW and knows it's location.

    I gotta go with my gut on this one and call the cops and force the issue with an arrest. Now if he does have a history of (being a scum bag) criminal activity, at least now he'll have it documented to prove to all his scum bag friends that he alone reigns supreme as "The Wal-Mart Bathroom Bandit" ... Thoughts?

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    Hey, 6SC...Thanksgiving was great. Both sons around and their friends made for a lively household. Loved it. Trust that your was good, too.

    Little grumpy today, thus my terse posts. I don't disagree that LE should have been called on this guy; surprised that store management didn't do that, as has been noted. But, if I had stopped the threat, as DH did and notified management, as DH did, I consider my duty done. Stopping this guy so he doesn't "impact" someone else down the line is LE's job.

    On your "what if" above (Gawd, I love "what ifs"...) The scenario you raise is one that I would automatically be fearful of and so would have to deal with. I don't know...I'm trailing off here as I think about this...Do I want to walk outside and meet a carload of these critters? I'm thinking not. But what's to stop these lunatics from targetting you, anyway, even if this BG was arrested? Am I calling LE cause I'm scared to walk to my car?

    Gotta think about this...

    This is a good "what if".

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    Ok, 6SC, I'll concede. There are two many factors in play, here, so best to contact LE. (Hey, I'm old and stubborn, but I can be swayed by good argument.) Hats off to ya on this "what if". I still don't care for this "call LEO before the BG does" stuff, tho. Yeah, I guess if I display my weapon, it'd probably be a reason to contact LE, but I hate to think they get the benefit of the doubt if they call first. But I get the logic.

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