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    non resident permit lie

    a co worker just completed hid CCW class and was looking to get a non resident permit that is honored in alabama where his parents live. the instructor told him there's no state that honors a permit for a state where you don't live. if you go to a state with a non resident permit, even states that say is accepted, it wont be and you'll be arrested and jailed. what is the clarification on this?
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    Check for reciprocity agreements to determine whether a permit is recognized. Some states accept all permits regardless of reciprocity, others don't recognize any state and some recognize only resident permits. While it is good to check a state's laws you can use the following to help see where permits are recognized:

    Concealed Carry Permit Reciprocity Maps

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    We hold TN CCWs. Just went on a trip that included PA (a reciprocity state). USACarry reciprocity maps & outline of state carry laws say that PA will honor our permit but it's a good idea any time to get a non-res permit if one is available.

    We printed the carry laws for each state we were passing thru and put them in the case we would put the guns in if carry wasn't legal. We went to the Sheriff's office in Chester County (just south of Philly) to apply for the non-res permit. After consultation with the office staff, the Sheriff himself talked to us. He said it was just a waste of our money to apply for the non-res permit, and that contrary to the info available on the internet, it would not have been mailed to us, we would have to pick it up in 45 days.

    He said printing the laws was a good idea, to make sure to always do that because not all LEOs are informed of the reciprocity but that if we got stopped for any reason, to make sure to show them the printout, and he gave us his card and told us, if they still give you a hassle have them call and talk to me.

    On the other hand, he said, if you go into Philadelphia, be sure your weapon is very well-concealed indeed, because Philly cops will hassle anyone they think has a gun, for any reason. We didn't have a problem with that!

    We had an interesting convo with a LEO in NJ, who was wearing a flack vest. I said, It's interesting that you wear that vest in a state where essentially handguns are outlawed. Do you find that the law makes a good deterrant to crime? And he said, "If I had my way, every red-blooded citizen on the street would be carrying. It would make my job SO much easier."

    Nikki

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    Quote Originally Posted by my7kids View Post
    We hold TN CCWs. Just went on a trip that included PA (a reciprocity state). USACarry reciprocity maps & outline of state carry laws say that PA will honor our permit but it's a good idea any time to get a non-res permit if one is available.

    We printed the carry laws for each state we were passing thru and put them in the case we would put the guns in if carry wasn't legal. We went to the Sheriff's office in Chester County (just south of Philly) to apply for the non-res permit. After consultation with the office staff, the Sheriff himself talked to us. He said it was just a waste of our money to apply for the non-res permit, and that contrary to the info available on the internet, it would not have been mailed to us, we would have to pick it up in 45 days.

    He said printing the laws was a good idea, to make sure to always do that because not all LEOs are informed of the reciprocity but that if we got stopped for any reason, to make sure to show them the printout, and he gave us his card and told us, if they still give you a hassle have them call and talk to me.

    On the other hand, he said, if you go into Philadelphia, be sure your weapon is very well-concealed indeed, because Philly cops will hassle anyone they think has a gun, for any reason. We didn't have a problem with that!

    We had an interesting convo with a LEO in NJ, who was wearing a flack vest. I said, It's interesting that you wear that vest in a state where essentially handguns are outlawed. Do you find that the law makes a good deterrant to crime? And he said, "If I had my way, every red-blooded citizen on the street would be carrying. It would make my job SO much easier."

    Nikki

    If you still want a PA license...go thru Centre County...He does the whole thing thru the mail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjam2jab View Post
    If you still want a PA license...go thru Centre County...He does the whole thing thru the mail.
    I hope so because I am getting ready to send off for a PA non-res permit myself. I printed out the online form from Centre Co. and should be mailing it off to them next week. I would hate to get a letter from PA telling me I needed to make a trip there to get my permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g30sheepdog View Post
    I hope so because I am getting ready to send off for a PA non-res permit myself. I printed out the online form from Centre Co. and should be mailing it off to them next week. I would hate to get a letter from PA telling me I needed to make a trip there to get my permit.
    Centre County does do everything through the mail, and it usually only takes a week to 10 days for a permit. If you are in doubt, check the Centre County Sheriff's Office. It says so right on the web site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycathed View Post
    a co worker just completed hid CCW class and was looking to get a non resident permit that is honored in alabama where his parents live. the instructor told him there's no state that honors a permit for a state where you don't live. if you go to a state with a non resident permit, even states that say is accepted, it wont be and you'll be arrested and jailed. what is the clarification on this?
    The instructor could not be more wrong. There are MANY states that issue non-resident permits and a large number of states that honor non-resident permits. Many states also post reciprocity lists on their website, or a call to the pistol unit of that state would get you the same results.

    There are some states that honor only resident permits (ie. New Hampshire) and there are some states that issue no other permits but their own. (ie. New York)

    While this information is posted all over the web, before traveling check it out for yourself. If possible print the reciprocity agreements and carry them with you. An officer who is not familiar with reciprocity is not going to want to hear "I read my permit is valid here on the internet officer." Confirm agreements before you travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sights on Target View Post
    Centre County does do everything through the mail, and it usually only takes a week to 10 days for a permit. If you are in doubt, check the Centre County Sheriff's Office. It says so right on the web site.
    Thats a fast turn around for a carry permit. Sweet! Yeah Im not really worried about it. Everything Ive read says they do it all through the mail. Thanks for the speedy reply to my post tho!

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Sights on Target View Post
    Centre County does do everything through the mail, and it usually only takes a week to 10 days for a permit. If you are in doubt, check the Centre County Sheriff's Office. It says so right on the web site.
    YUP! 11 day turnaround for my Non Res.

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    I'm a NEWBY,, how do u get to/copy different state CCW laws,,??

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