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    No real disadvantage with one chambered if you know and practice the four rules of gun safety and are familiar with your firearm. A big disadvantage in not having one in the chamber though. If confronted with a deadly encounter you are already way behind the curve. The extra time it takes to rack the slide may be the difference between you going home to your family or your family having to pay for a funeral. Also practice racking the slide with one hand tied behind you. Then tell me how easy it will be in a stress situation if you have an injured hand. Also all my automatics except one have no external safety. Don't need em don't want em.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    This subject has been beat to death on this site and others. If you are not comfortable carrying one in the chamber just make sure you practice, practice and practice drawing and chambering a round. Remember that with an idrealin rush you may not get one chambered the first time. What worries me about carrying with the chamber empty is everyone has had the problem of the first round not chambering correctly when loading a pistol. I know that this has happened to everyone that fires a lot. All you need is that to happen when it's a life or death situation! The ideal way to carry is one in the chamber...no ifs, ands, or buts!
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  4. To Chamber or Not to Chamber...

    First and foremost- It is going to come down to your preference. All the forum debate will likely not influence you in one way or another. You've likely already made up your mind.

    That being said, you should know the pros/cons of both prior to carrying in any way:

    If you have the willpower and motivation to train in the Isralei method more power to you. When deployed successfully it is very fast and accurate. Like this guy:
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    ...snipped...Hey Tucker's Mom: If I ever run into you, remind me to refer to you as maam and be a cordial and respectful old southern genteman. You sure sound like you belong in this forum with mostly us guys. Interestingly, the best shooting I ever saw at a range was a mom and daughter duo who pulled out the darn biggest revolvers and at a significant distance did a job on the head and the heart mass of the paper target. You gals are something to fear and know how to take care of yourselves.Say hello to Tucker.
    I like a bit of bantering here and there so you really do not have to careful of me. I can hold my own...My guys were the ones who tripped me into guns so I am more comfortable with them than women. Thanks for the compliments. Just like you men, if you do not practice often then knowledge get a little bit behind. I shoot and read everyday...Tucker said "Woof!!" so I guess that may mean "Hello!"
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    I was the same way unsure of how to carry. However my first carry gun was a XD40. I was not comfortable at first with on in the chamber so is what I did to convice myself was cock but not chamber it. When I got home at night and took it off I saw it was still cocked err go no trigger pull. I then bought a SW99 and utilize the decocker on it and I now only carry chambered no matter what gun or how I am carring its hot and ready to go if I need it. As for trying to rack one with only one arm I have practiced it and the way I let the rear sights grab my belt edge (dont work on those fancy looking ramp type sights) you will find if there is a will there is a way but practice practice practice (how you carry) training is always key.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marionandjohn View Post
    I was the same way unsure of how to carry. However my first carry gun was a XD40. I was not comfortable at first with on in the chamber so is what I did to convice myself was cock but not chamber it. When I got home at night and took it off I saw it was still cocked err go no trigger pull. I then bought a SW99 and utilize the decocker on it and I now only carry chambered no matter what gun or how I am carring its hot and ready to go if I need it. As for trying to rack one with only one arm I have practiced it and the way I let the rear sights grab my belt edge (dont work on those fancy looking ramp type sights) you will find if there is a will there is a way but practice practice practice (how you carry) training is always key.
    I agree that a the slide can be racked without the use of the other hand and practice doing so is a good idea because you never know what will happen. Still I would rather not have to resort to doing it if I can avoid it.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

  8. Thanks to everybody that replied...here is my thought process...I can carry my gun unloaded everyday and with practice, un-holster, put one in the chamber on the way to ready, all in one quick motion. But there is a chance of error it will not chamber. The other option is always have one chambered, which obviously makes it hot 100% of the time. So going from 0% chance of accidental discharge to .0001% - 100%, is the ultimate issue. I would assume that there are far more injuries or deaths due to "hot" guns accidentally discharging then using them in a justified situation.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Socket View Post
    Thanks to everybody that replied...here is my thought process...I can carry my gun unloaded everyday and with practice, un-holster, put one in the chamber on the way to ready, all in one quick motion. But there is a chance of error it will not chamber. The other option is always have one chambered, which obviously makes it hot 100% of the time. So going from 0% chance of accidental discharge to .0001% - 100%, is the ultimate issue. I would assume that there are far more injuries or deaths due to "hot" guns accidentally discharging then using them in a justified situation.
    Sounds like the official mantra of the Brady campaign

    Having the gun fully loaded (one in chamber) vs. half loaded (mag in/none in chamber) does not make the weapon any more dangerous or any safer.

    "Safety is something that happens between your ears" not in your hands." - Jeff Cooper

    Many of us here have carried fully loaded weapons for years without incident. You need to pay attention to what you're doing, and give the weapon the respect it deserves. Follow all of the safety rules. Do that and you'll have no problems.
    Quick to the gun, Sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. - Chris Costa

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClearSightTactical View Post
    Sounds like the official mantra of the Brady campaign

    Having the gun fully loaded (one in chamber) vs. half loaded (mag in/none in chamber) does not make the weapon any more dangerous or any safer.

    "Safety is something that happens between your ears" not in your hands." - Jeff Cooper

    Many of us here have carried fully loaded weapons for years without incident. You need to pay attention to what you're doing, and give the weapon the respect it deserves. Follow all of the safety rules. Do that and you'll have no problems.
    +1. I agree.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Socket View Post
    What are pros and cons to CC with 1 in the Chamber?
    One in the chamber:
    Pros:
    You will survive a real-life emergency event.
    You might save another life.

    Cons:(only if you are a careless idiot)
    You might accidentally discharge your weapon when you do not want to.

    Chamber clear:

    Pros:
    You will get you watch the scenery while you are attacked.

    Cons:
    Proper end up dead or end up the victim of another crime.

    I caught a fellow LEO that refused to chamber a round when on-duty and it took me shaming him, in public, before he would change his ways. It was an extreme danger and one that might have ended up costing him his life. It is beyond dumb to not chamber a round whether at home or out in the public.

    You should always treat a weapon as if it has a round chambered. If you do this, then you should never run into accidental discharges. You always keep a firearm pointed away from people(except when you are defending against attacks from said person), you never place your finger in the trigger guard...well, you just need to look up and study firearm safety, if you do not already know this stuff.

    Whether a person chambers a round or not is their choice, but I suggest that those who choose not to chamber a round not carry a firearm. In the end, it will end up being your firearm that is taken from you and either used against you and/or used against another person.

    EDIT

    Just to add:

    I carry a Glock 23 with three 13 round magazines and one in the chamber. I have carried this Glock for 6+ years without any accidential discharges. I have carried a firearm since I was 19(when I entered into law enforcement) and I have always chambered a round without accidental discharges or other unintended incidents.

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