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    I always carry with one in the chamber.

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by RevJimII View Post
    I OC, but either way.. one in the chamber.. or 6 in the wheel as in the case of my S&W .38. Saves valuable time in a defensive shooting scenario. Just remember kids.. keep your booger picker off the bang button.

    Rev. Jim
    Rev. Jim:
    My cousin in PA kept "his booger finger off the bang button" but nontheless managed to put a great engineered hollowpoint round through his hand, which for all intents and purposes is unusable now. It was not his finger that made bang... and I need not get into the details. The fact is that some guns are safer than others. Personally, I look at the 1911's out there today with grip safety, thumb safety and so on and think that there really cannot be anything much safer. Then I see the HK P7M8 squeeze cocker and think - jeepers, I could feel comfy carrying this one with one in the chamber in my pocket without even a cheap holster! The truth of the matter is that there are all kinds of guns out there with all sorts of safety features and simply keeping the finger off the trigger is not going to keep the gun from going bang. I KNOW.

    Personally? I carry with one in the chamber ALWAYS. Why? Because there are plenty of situations where I am not going to have the time or circumstances to chamber a round prior to firing. My personal favourites right now are Glocks with NY1 triggers and top quality holsters with at least Level 1 retention (just to make sure that the trigger stays stuffed away behind closed doors). I am also favouring the Sig P239 series, the HK P7 series, and some small 1911 types. I have been playing around for about 5 or 6 YEARS now with different handguns and holsters and still have no firm decision. I am also stuck with a decision to be made on caliber as well. I like .45 but for carry purposes it seems to me that the most carry friendly handguns are in 9mm excepting revolvers. And that's another story completely as a good revolver carried in a top quality holster to my way of thinking anyway, is super safe. The cylinder does not turn - the gun does not go bang, finger on the trigger of otherwise.

    I think the bottom line is that it is not a simple choice but an individual one. I know my level of comfort changes with the method of carry. I love OWB carry with the muzzle aimed at the ground slightly behind me (FBI cant). It permits a safe carry position even if one lets go; it tends to leave the mouth of the holster open for a one handed reholster and so on.

    Whatever your situation though, keep this in mind. It is better to have one with a round NOT chambered than to NOT have a gun because it's at home. And if I am totally uncomfortable I will carry without a chambered round but I will carry (where legal). My PREFERENCE is one in the chamber and ready to rock and roll. I pray that I will NEVER have to remove my handgun from its holster except for practice or cleaning.. but if I need it you can be sure that if I am legal it will be there one way or the other. And that, after all, is the bottom line.

    I am just as concerned about the level of expertise that we are beginning to see out there and it is not a good thing. This is why there are states demanding in-state lengthy firearms courses with live fire. We just had a fellow shoot and kill HIMSELF in defense of his home because he heard a noise (see NRA-ILA-The Armed Citizen). We need more training and practice along with that decision as to what to carry and how to carry it. Much more expertise.

    Be safe. Be ready. And keep the damn NRA stickers off the car unless you want to get bonked on the head and have your handgun stolen.

  4. You have 1/million chance to be saved by a ready to fire weapon.


    You have 1/10.000 chance to shoot yourself in the leg by accident.

    I do not advocate carrying a empty chamber weapon, Israeli carry isn't for everyone.

  5. If you are not going carry one in the chamber just carry a big stick it would amont to the same thing maybe better

  6. Quote Originally Posted by gunsite View Post
    You have 1/million chance to be saved by a ready to fire weapon.


    You have 1/10.000 chance to shoot yourself in the leg by accident.

    I do not advocate carrying a empty chamber weapon, Israeli carry isn't for everyone.
    Huh?
    I don't know where you get your numbers from but in any event they seem to be reversed; what you are stating is that you have a greater chance of shooting yourself in the leg with a chambered round.

    Let me ask you this. Typical example these days for handgun use. You are subject of an attempted carjacking... only you don't really know if it is an attempted carjacking because some fool just bumped into the back of you and is walking up to your window with his hands in his pockets to exchange insurance information... it's time for you to draw, aim and shoot because he's just presented a loaded handgun to your face through the open window... or better yet, has grabbed your head and is attempting to wrap it around the steering wheel. Please explain to me how one is supposed to assess the situation, draw from an appendix OWB holster aim and fire versus rack one, aim and fire, without shooting oneself in the leg or whatever.

    No. I think EXPERTS will agree that you want to find a SAFE carry piece like perhaps an HK P7M8 and you want to carry one chambered. It is the safest carry in the world and the chances of shooting yourself anywhere or having an AD/ND are almost nil. BUT you are ready for just this type of situation. How do I know? If I didn't explain it in detail before I will explain it again. I HAD IT HAPPEN TO ME. I will never carry without a round in the chamber. I don't care what the firearm costs me and I am very cognizant of the safety features preventing an AD/ND, like a thumb safety, grip safety, etc. Or simply a snubbie stuck inside a tight holster... again, for those of you that don't understand how these guns work, if the cylinder does not rotate, the gun does not go bang, even if your "booger finger is in your nose".

    That's all I have to say on the matter. No need to hack it to death. Anyone wising to chime in please do so from a position of experience, knowledge and empirical data rather than 'guessing'. Thanks.

  7. My first post...the ?

    I started this thread with a simple ? whether to carry one in the chamber. Since then, I have been carrying one in the chamber. My comfort level increased because I am 100% safe and aware that I am carrying a loaded handgun. I take the risk because of the risk of threats. Power to the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socket View Post
    I started this thread with a simple ? whether to carry one in the chamber. Since then, I have been carrying one in the chamber. My comfort level increased because I am 100% safe and aware that I am carrying a loaded handgun. I take the risk because of the risk of threats. Power to the people.
    Well done. And yes, power to the people.
    "A man's got to have a code, a creed to live by, no matter his job." - John Wayne

  9. #78
    Dropped a S&W 340 on heel, fully loaded, thank got it did'nt go off. Fell on the sidewalk hit on the butt, left a nice ding and was my favorite after that!

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    One in the chamber, always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by torontogunguy View Post
    Rev. Jim:
    My cousin in PA kept "his booger finger off the bang button" but nontheless managed to put a great engineered hollowpoint round through his hand, which for all intents and purposes is unusable now. It was not his finger that made bang... and I need not get into the details.
    With out knowing the details I have to ask why he had his hand in front of a loaded gun? was he stopping the bullet or using his hand for good muzzle control? until I have checked atleast 2 times mostly three times and the action is open and will prolly still check for a round and clip another time I will then and only then allow my hand to go infront of the barrel for what ever the intended purpose would be. Just my thought process right or wrong but I would have to say if INDEED the "booger finger" didnt touch the "bang button" then there was a weapon malfunction and that is whole nother problem and i have to wonder when the last time that weapon was torn down cleaned and inspected throughly. I am not saying your cousin didnt have a legitimate accidental discharge but with his hand infront of the weapon I have to wonder what happened.

    As I read in another post some one hangs their glock on the stall door by the trigger gaurd while using a public restroom this reminds me its not just the booger finger you have to keep off but you must make sure nothing enters the trigger gaurd until the trigger is ready to be pulled.
    "The purpose of war is not to die for your country. The purpose of war is to ensure that the other guy dies for his country." - General Patton

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